What to do about Suh?

st thomas · 11-23-2012, 06:12 PM

I feel for slomo theres more marie labeaux things happening in detroit than the suh nut cracker play. Somebody explain the td with the runner clearly down.

FinSaint · 11-23-2012, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wish we had him at DT alongside Hicks. BEASTLY!!!

I wish the Saints rather had either Haloti Ngata or Geno Atkins at DT next to Hicks.

I think both are better players than Suh, better fits - especially when pairing them up with Hicks - and most of all team players and professionals.

Oh, and I'd also accept Kevin Williams even though he has taken a step back in recent seasons, probably because Pat Williams is no longer playing next to him.

SloMotion · 11-24-2012, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Slo-Mo, do you think Suh is worth the $17.2M and $17.6M cap hits in 2013 and 2014 respectively?!

Seems like he is twice the overpay than Will Smith is to the Saints, but, on the other hand, Suh does have a lot more upside than Smith, at least at this point in their careers.

Still, for that type of cash you should be doing a lot of things right and virtually nothing wrong on game days, which I guess Suh isn't really doing at the moment.

Not in his current frame of mind I don't ... he's got to quit sulking, lose that 'me-against-the-world' mentality and start playing for the team instead of himself. It's already very obvious he is not happy in Detroit and it's gonna' get pretty ugly around here in 2013/2014 if he doesn't start playing up to potential.

I wanted them to trade him in a Herschel Walker-type deal last season and get a defensive backfield for him while his market value was still way up. As it stands, I expect him to exercise his option in 2014 and play somewhere else after that, somewhere like NE, SFran, Dal, NYG, a big market where he can promote the 'Suh brand'. Belichek, Coughlin or Harbaugh would get his head straight, IDK about Jason Garrett and I think that's the only way we'll ever get to see how much 'up side' Suh really has in the NFL. For now, my prediction that Fairley would be a better draft, meaner & more productive appears to becoming true, that guy is a beast fighting off his blocks and corralling runners coming through the line as he rushes, a concept Suh doesn't appear to have grasped fully.

SloMotion · 11-24-2012, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I feel for slomo theres more marie labeaux things happening in detroit than the suh nut cracker play. Somebody explain the td with the runner clearly down.

, I had to look up 'marie labeaux' and man, are you ever right,

FinSaint · 11-24-2012, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Not in his current frame of mind I don't ... he's got to quit sulking, lose that 'me-against-the-world' mentality and start playing for the team instead of himself. It's already very obvious he is not happy in Detroit and it's gonna' get pretty ugly around here in 2013/2014 if he doesn't start playing up to potential.

I wanted them to trade him in a Herschel Walker-type deal last season and get a defensive backfield for him while his market value was still way up. As it stands, I expect him to exercise his option in 2014 and play somewhere else after that, somewhere like NE, SFran, Dal, NYG, a big market where he can promote the 'Suh brand'. Belichek, Coughlin or Harbaugh would get his head straight, IDK about Jason Garrett and I think that's the only way we'll ever get to see how much 'up side' Suh really has in the NFL. For now, my prediction that Fairley would be a better draft, meaner & more productive appears to becoming true, that guy is a beast fighting off his blocks and corralling runners coming through the line as he rushes, a concept Suh doesn't appear to have grasped fully.

Thanks for the insight, brother!

Nemesis · 11-24-2012, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

He's the poster boy for Baby-DaddyRearing.com.

Alaska

We are discussing what happened on the field, not whatever you'd like to turn this convo into

Nemesis · 11-24-2012, 03:00 PM

Personally I feel that Suh aimed at the man's nuts, and simply missed. Based on his history, I feel he should've been banned for half the season had he managed to make full contact. That's just me though..
Suh no longer has the benefit of doubt. He isn't Ed Reed.

Nemesis · 11-24-2012, 03:03 PM

Why was my post duplicated?.. I couldnt delete it so had to edit and post this:

Hey I hope everyone had a happy Turkey Day. May you and your families be blessed. Special shout out to our vets, just cause I give shout outs to vets whenever I can.

11-23-2012, 06:12 PM	#11
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: What to do about Suh? I feel for slomo theres more marie labeaux things happening in detroit than the suh nut cracker play. Somebody explain the td with the runner clearly down. SloMotion likes this.

11-23-2012, 07:12 PM	#12
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: What to do about Suh? Originally Posted by Danno I wish we had him at DT alongside Hicks. BEASTLY!!! I wish the Saints rather had either Haloti Ngata or Geno Atkins at DT next to Hicks. I think both are better players than Suh, better fits - especially when pairing them up with Hicks - and most of all team players and professionals. Oh, and I'd also accept Kevin Williams even though he has taken a step back in recent seasons, probably because Pat Williams is no longer playing next to him. SloMotion likes this.

11-24-2012, 06:02 AM	#13
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: What to do about Suh? Originally Posted by FinSaint Slo-Mo, do you think Suh is worth the $17.2M and $17.6M cap hits in 2013 and 2014 respectively?! Seems like he is twice the overpay than Will Smith is to the Saints, but, on the other hand, Suh does have a lot more upside than Smith, at least at this point in their careers. Still, for that type of cash you should be doing a lot of things right and virtually nothing wrong on game days, which I guess Suh isn't really doing at the moment. Not in his current frame of mind I don't ... he's got to quit sulking, lose that 'me-against-the-world' mentality and start playing for the team instead of himself. It's already very obvious he is not happy in Detroit and it's gonna' get pretty ugly around here in 2013/2014 if he doesn't start playing up to potential. I wanted them to trade him in a Herschel Walker-type deal last season and get a defensive backfield for him while his market value was still way up. As it stands, I expect him to exercise his option in 2014 and play somewhere else after that, somewhere like NE, SFran, Dal, NYG, a big market where he can promote the 'Suh brand'. Belichek, Coughlin or Harbaugh would get his head straight, IDK about Jason Garrett and I think that's the only way we'll ever get to see how much 'up side' Suh really has in the NFL. For now, my prediction that Fairley would be a better draft, meaner & more productive appears to becoming true, that guy is a beast fighting off his blocks and corralling runners coming through the line as he rushes, a concept Suh doesn't appear to have grasped fully. FinSaint likes this.

11-24-2012, 06:06 AM	#14
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: What to do about Suh? Originally Posted by st thomas I feel for slomo theres more marie labeaux things happening in detroit than the suh nut cracker play. Somebody explain the td with the runner clearly down. , I had to look up 'marie labeaux' and man, are you ever right,

11-24-2012, 02:00 PM	#15
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,955	Re: What to do about Suh? Originally Posted by SloMotion Not in his current frame of mind I don't ... he's got to quit sulking, lose that 'me-against-the-world' mentality and start playing for the team instead of himself. It's already very obvious he is not happy in Detroit and it's gonna' get pretty ugly around here in 2013/2014 if he doesn't start playing up to potential. I wanted them to trade him in a Herschel Walker-type deal last season and get a defensive backfield for him while his market value was still way up. As it stands, I expect him to exercise his option in 2014 and play somewhere else after that, somewhere like NE, SFran, Dal, NYG, a big market where he can promote the 'Suh brand'. Belichek, Coughlin or Harbaugh would get his head straight, IDK about Jason Garrett and I think that's the only way we'll ever get to see how much 'up side' Suh really has in the NFL. For now, my prediction that Fairley would be a better draft, meaner & more productive appears to becoming true, that guy is a beast fighting off his blocks and corralling runners coming through the line as he rushes, a concept Suh doesn't appear to have grasped fully. Thanks for the insight, brother!

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11-24-2012, 02:54 PM	#16
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Re: What to do about Suh? Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints He's the poster boy for Baby-DaddyRearing.com. Alaska We are discussing what happened on the field, not whatever you'd like to turn this convo into

11-24-2012, 03:00 PM	#17
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Re: What to do about Suh? Personally I feel that Suh aimed at the man's nuts, and simply missed. Based on his history, I feel he should've been banned for half the season had he managed to make full contact. That's just me though.. Suh no longer has the benefit of doubt. He isn't Ed Reed.

11-24-2012, 03:03 PM	#18
Nemesis VIP~~Drunken Clam Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Quahog Posts: 422	Re: What to do about Suh? Why was my post duplicated?.. I couldnt delete it so had to edit and post this: Hey I hope everyone had a happy Turkey Day. May you and your families be blessed. Special shout out to our vets, just cause I give shout outs to vets whenever I can.

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