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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Vick issues a nightmare for Blank By Jeff Schultz | Saturday, May 19, 2007, 07:00 PM The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Jeff Schultz In a recent Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans, Arthur Blank ranked 297th with a net worth of ...

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Old 05-21-2007, 09:08 AM   #1
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Summing up Mr. Vick...

Vick issues a nightmare for Blank
By Jeff Schultz | Saturday, May 19, 2007, 07:00 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Jeff Schultz In a recent Forbes list of the 400 wealthiest Americans, Arthur Blank ranked 297th with a net worth of $1.3 billion. The assumption here is that even if 297th out of 400 doesn’t get you to the gold card playoffs, $1.3 billion keeps the image fairly well intact.

At the end of the 2004 season, Michael Vick was the centerpiece of this city. He was 23-12-1 as a starter, had just led the Falcons to within a win of the Super Bowl and radiated like a 100-watt bulb. Since then, he is 15-16 as a starter and the bulb has been crushed.

If image if everything, Vick is on the way to bankruptcy.

The herpes case, which led to lampooning (Ron Mexico) and an out-of-court settlement.

The picture of Vick possible holding a “blunt” on his girlfriend’s MySpace page.

Flipping off home fans.

The fake water bottle with alleged marijuana particulates (later cleared) at the Miami airport, a situation Joe Montana and most leaders have managed to avoid in their career.

Subsequent suggestions he might’ve been “framed” by Miami police and claims of his explanation for the water bottle, which were disputed.

Blowing off Congress, then giving an alibi that even his own endorsement partner (AirTran) stomped on.

Now comes possibly the worst of all: Allegations of a connection to dogfighting. It’s not merely a felony, it’s a pastime for the bottom-feeders of society.

If anything that has been alleged in this case is true, there’s one thing I never want to hear about Michael Vick again: “He’s a good kid, he just hangs around bad people.”

That Vick may not be a very good quarterback is suddenly the least of his problems. It’s certainly the least of Arthur Blank’s problems.

The Falcons’ owner longs for the days when his biggest concerns were fitting Vick with the right offense. Now he finds himself trying to pitch a headache to the masses. He is all about team and presenting a unified front. But if you believe that everybody in the Falcons’ organization is universal in their belief in Vick, you’re deluded.

Blank knows all about image. He must know that Vick’s has been damaged beyond repair, regardless of whether the quarterback gets charged or suspended in the dog case. The Humane Society, PETA, a California congressman — who hasn’t weighed in? Blank can read. He can hear. He can sense. The man made his fortune reading the retail tea leaves better than anybody.

There was a time when Vick pulled this city’s fans together. Now, he divides them.

Welcome to Blank’s nightmare. The Falcons are married to a quarterback with a 10-year, $130 million contract. Dumping Vick at some point projects salary cap hell. But the Falcons’ fan base is divided: half angry, half defensive. There’s no middle. Another concern is that much of the split may be along racial lines.

It’s one thing to lose a game. It’s another to have your team’s identity hinged to an image wrecking ball. Repeated incidents diminish Vick’s already in-question ability to lead and Blank’s ability to sell.

“There’s no doubt Vick’s image has taken a huge hit,” said Frank Mahar of Genesco Sports Enterprises, a sports marketing firm in New York. “It’s been one incident on top of another. For some people now, the question isn’t, ‘When is it going to stop?’ but ‘What’s next?’

“When Vick came into the league, he had multiple TV spots — Nike, a video game, Powerade. I would guess we’re not going to see him on much this year.”

The national and local perception of an athlete often differ. Barry Bonds is vilified in every stadium but one — his home park in San Francisco. But Vick is no longer universally embraced here. Boos and no-shows at home games provided sufficient evidence last season. So do sports talk shows today.

“Blank’s in a hard place,” Mahar said. “If the town is really that split, it almost like no matter what he does he’s going to upset somebody. He wants to sell tickets but he doesn’t want to upset people in the process. It almost comes down to, ‘What’s the lesser of two evils?’ “

Nobody could have predicted that a case involving fighting pitbulls may provide that answer.

That alone should tell you that Blank has a problem.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sha...ssues_a_n.html

Ok lets review.

Michael Vick rap sheet:

• The herpes case, which led to lampooning (Ron Mexico) and an out-of-court settlement.

• The picture of Vick possible holding a “blunt” on his girlfriend’s MySpace page.

• Flipping off home fans.

• The fake water bottle with alleged marijuana particulates (later cleared) at the Miami airport.

• Subsequent suggestions he might’ve been “framed” by Miami police and claims of his explanation for the water bottle, which were disputed.

• Blowing off Congress, then giving an alibi that even his own endorsement partner (AirTran) stomped on.

• Allegations of a connection to dogfighting. It’s not merely a felony, it’s a pastime for the bottom-feeders of society.
Posted May 21, by Ben Maller
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Well that about sums it up. In another thread some stated we would be better off facing Vick than his back up ...Joey.. Makes me wonder if we should, on this thought alone, start to back Vick so we can have an easier chance at 2 wins against the dirty birds?
Nah hang him

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Old 05-21-2007, 09:46 AM   #2
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Can you imagine how hard it would be to trade Vick right now? Who would take him? 10/$130M is a noose of a contract. Nobody's shelling that out for a run-first QB nearing 30 with a laundry list of off-field issues that dosen't manage pro-style offenses well. They'd be lucky to get $0.25 on the dollar for him even if all the dog fighting stuff miraculously dissapears.
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clip from SI.com:

GRAND CAYMAN, Cayman Islands -- Michael Vick, wearing a black Atlanta Falcons jersey and slinging passes in front of a crowd for the first time since his Virginia home came under investigation for an illegal dog fighting ring last month, was greeted by a chorus of barking fans and chants of "Who let the dogs out?" as he participated in the NFL Quarterback Challenge at the Cayman Islands International School Park on Saturday.

I think he can expect to hear that song every away game.
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I wonder if ATL had some kind of clause in Vicks contract?

You just don't had a guy 130 million dollars without some sort of safety net.

Do you?
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:41 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
Vick issues a nightmare for Blank
By Jeff Schultz | Saturday, May 19, 2007, 07:00 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Jeff Schultz

Well that about sums it up. In another thread some stated we would be better off facing Vick than his back up ...Joey.. Makes me wonder if we should, on this thought alone, start to back Vick so we can have an easier chance at 2 wins against the dirty birds?
Nah hang him
This guy is a great writer- very objective, and certainly not a homer (a rarity around here). I have never met him, although I work with his wife.

I think he hits it on the head with how ATL feels about Vick. The best thing the Falcons can hope for is that Vick DOES get disciplined, so then they can void his contract based on 'conduct unbecoming' or whatever wording the PA and owners decided on.

Otherwise they are screwed.
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Originally Posted by SapperSaint View Post
I wonder if ATL had some kind of clause in Vicks contract?

You just don't had a guy 130 million dollars without some sort of safety net.

Do you?

He is the highest paid player in the NFL. Not Brady, not Payton, not LT....its micheal vick. Sure they can cut him, but the cap hit to the team would hurt the team for two to three seasons. There is no clause in that contract that would allow them an out in this case.
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Old 05-21-2007, 02:12 PM   #7
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He is the highest paid player in the NFL. Not Brady, not Payton, not LT....its micheal vick. Sure they can cut him, but the cap hit to the team would hurt the team for two to three seasons. There is no clause in that contract that would allow them an out in this case.
That is absolutely crazy for a team to to have some sort of deal breaking clause.

If the Home Depot boycott happens, I think Mr Blank lose more money than if he got rid of Vick.
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I'm down on the Home Depot boycott already. I will not enter another Home Depot until Blank fires Michael Vick.
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Boycott Home Depot, I dont mean to be disrespectful of your ideals or the manor in which you want to be anti Vick, but if your going to go this route then you should go all the way and just Boycott the NFL.

If you know it or not alot of money is made off of dog fighting, once again the only reason this crime is being reported so much is because a big name star is attached to the crime.

Hay Bret Farve had an addiction to pain pills a while back, didnt hear anyone talking about boycotting cheese. Micheal Irving has a crime sheet a mile long so to speak....didnt hear anyone talking about not watching ESPN or boycotting his Hall of Fame induction last year.

Sports stars are given so many free pass in life its not even funny. During my time at LSU, and in Shreveport we had alot of local talent who didnt do anything in school or college and somehow manage to pass highschool on the honor roll.

*Stromile Swift ring a bell anyone*

How many reports did I hear of women being raped at LSU and things being overlooked or ignored to save the face of the school or the "program". And its not just at big schools either, Grambling has the same kind of issues going on as well.

Vick is a star in the NFL, worse off he is a star on a team that can change the game in a second and the saints have to face this team twice a year. Is Vick stupid for his actions....in a simple answer yes. Yet he is more stupid for his careless additude when incidents like "Ron Mexico", "The myspace Joint", and the "Water Bottle" are so easly caught and so easly traceable. Alot of other people and players commit the same actions as Vick, they just have common sense to not be so open about it.

Vick is not a rolemodel, he is an NFL player....nothing more and nothing less. I find it very funny that people get all worked up over a 26 year old who plays a game for a living doing stupid things than the current state of goverment which has far greater impact on our lifes, than the falcons star player.

You say that were nuts for pulling for them, you call them sorry, you wonder why we deal with them year after year. Well New Orleans is like no other city in the world, and no fans are anything like saint fans.
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It is in the name of the children we hang this man. The bad moral fiber that makes this man a man, has been deamed unexceptable. Now away with him.

Seriously If you agree or not agree with with all this. You have to admit that he is a role model to all the kids that play the sport and want to play like him. Heck it has always been that way thru-out history. It is the parents responsibilty to police the effect the players have on there kids. So many do not care it is a shame. They failed in thier youth and now they are failing thier children. So society is once again going to be the seraget parent. Maybe society should look at itself and .... never mind this will never happen.

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