Jeff Faine

papz · 10-24-2007, 07:30 PM

Pro Bowl alternate" You don't neccesarily get into the Pro Bowl based on numbers its also a popularity vote. You be nice to voters, take a few out to dinner, play nice nice, you to have a shot to get in.

I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters.

He's a FRAUD! You might want to also add he was a starter for the Browns most of those years... and they dumped him off for WHO??? BENTLY!!!

If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks.

LongTimeFan · 10-24-2007, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters.

If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks.

I have Holt on my fantasy team and he's just not helping me at all, it's not his fault why his numbers are down,, QB injured, RB injured which pretty much killed their running game, they are averaging 11.4 points scored per game, not good if your a Rams fan or if you own Holt own your team as I do, I continue to play Holt each week, you just can't sit down a Torry Holt.

Euphoria · 10-24-2007, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters.

If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks.

This is my point... you buy dinner and have some good friends in the NFL... you get into the Pro Bowl. I assume we agree on this. I also heard something of the sort on ESPN recently. I don't know if you were just saying the same thing or trying to argue my point but its the same point.

Don't mislead my second point though I feel like Bently deserved based on his actually play. Faine has not. Some players get known by the fans who vote based on numbers and excitment. Some get in because the players don't accept the invite to play in the Pro Bowl so they find someone to fill in.

Boogro · 10-24-2007, 10:47 PM

Look, Faine has done well at times and is adequate. If I not mistaken, wasn't Brooks a Pro-Bowl alternate one year? The Pro Bowl is a joke now. A lot of players that get invited, don't even go anymore. Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year after playing like 9 games or something. I believe the fan's vote is partial to the players that get selected.

These arguments get so blown out of proportion. Honestly, would you rather still have Bentley or Faine? That's both being completely healthy of course. To me, it's a no brainer.

Euphoria · 10-24-2007, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by Boogro

Look, Faine has done well at times and is adequate. If I not mistaken, wasn't Brooks a Pro-Bowl alternate one year? The Pro Bowl is a joke now. A lot of players that get invited, don't even go anymore. Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year after playing like 9 games or something. I believe the fan's vote is partial to the players that get selected.

These arguments get so blown out of proportion. Honestly, would you rather still have Bentley or Faine? That's both being completely healthy of course. To me, it's a no brainer.

if you wanna settle for adequate then I guess you are happy with 2-4. Faine is stinking up the joint this year that if FOR SURE!

Agree BENTLEY, hands down!

Boogro · 10-25-2007, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

if you wanna settle for adequate then I guess you are happy with 2-4. Faine is stinking up the joint this year that if FOR SURE!

Agree BENTLEY, hands down!

Euph, I am sure if the "Agree Bentley" part was a sarcastic remark. I actually agree, no sarcasm involved. There shouldn't even be an argument over this ridiculous comparison. To me, getting rid of Bentley was a bad mistake, but I have to live it. I think most of us can agree that Bentley was better. Last year, I had no problem with Faine...we were winning. No one is playing as well as they did last year except maybe Moore Karney, Weatherford, and Bullocks has improved. That's not saying much.

I am happy with 2-4, but only after we lost the first four. I am disgusted from an overall standpoint.

As far as the Faine/Bentley comparison, I still haven't got answer from my previous question. Which is, did ANYONE ever see Bentley get manhandled like Faine did in the Titans game? I don't think so. Bentley is a far better run blocker and pass blocker than Faine is, hands down.

If the "I with Jeff Faine" club still don't believe me, then wait until the Jags game. Their DT's are the best in football and they'll eat Faine's lunch (if he plays). I hope he can improve and play better as goes for the rest of the team. Brown was looking bad the first couple games and looks to be going a lot better so it can happen. Let's just hope this offense can get their rhythm back and get going.

10-24-2007, 07:30 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,698	Re: Jeff Faine Pro Bowl alternate" You don't neccesarily get into the Pro Bowl based on numbers its also a popularity vote. You be nice to voters, take a few out to dinner, play nice nice, you to have a shot to get in. I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters. He's a FRAUD! You might want to also add he was a starter for the Browns most of those years... and they dumped him off for WHO??? BENTLY!!! If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks.

10-24-2007, 07:46 PM	#2
LongTimeFan Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 2,403	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by papz I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters. If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks. I have Holt on my fantasy team and he's just not helping me at all, it's not his fault why his numbers are down,, QB injured, RB injured which pretty much killed their running game, they are averaging 11.4 points scored per game, not good if your a Rams fan or if you own Holt own your team as I do, I continue to play Holt each week, you just can't sit down a Torry Holt.

10-24-2007, 10:03 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by papz I maybe wrong (though I don't think so) but it's not the fans who vote for the Pro Bowl alternates... I believe it's the players and coaches. The fans vote for the Pro Bowl starters. If you sit there and think about that, that doesn't exactly prove your point of Faine being a fraud... considering Bentley was a Pro Bowl guard/center. And just because he played for a horrible team, doesn't mean he's a horrible player if you were implying that. For example the Rams suck... that doesn't mean Torry Holt sucks. This is my point... you buy dinner and have some good friends in the NFL... you get into the Pro Bowl. I assume we agree on this. I also heard something of the sort on ESPN recently. I don't know if you were just saying the same thing or trying to argue my point but its the same point. Don't mislead my second point though I feel like Bently deserved based on his actually play. Faine has not. Some players get known by the fans who vote based on numbers and excitment. Some get in because the players don't accept the invite to play in the Pro Bowl so they find someone to fill in.
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10-24-2007, 10:47 PM	#4
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Jeff Faine Look, Faine has done well at times and is adequate. If I not mistaken, wasn't Brooks a Pro-Bowl alternate one year? The Pro Bowl is a joke now. A lot of players that get invited, don't even go anymore. Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year after playing like 9 games or something. I believe the fan's vote is partial to the players that get selected. These arguments get so blown out of proportion. Honestly, would you rather still have Bentley or Faine? That's both being completely healthy of course. To me, it's a no brainer.

10-24-2007, 11:26 PM	#5
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by Boogro Look, Faine has done well at times and is adequate. If I not mistaken, wasn't Brooks a Pro-Bowl alternate one year? The Pro Bowl is a joke now. A lot of players that get invited, don't even go anymore. Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year after playing like 9 games or something. I believe the fan's vote is partial to the players that get selected. These arguments get so blown out of proportion. Honestly, would you rather still have Bentley or Faine? That's both being completely healthy of course. To me, it's a no brainer. if you wanna settle for adequate then I guess you are happy with 2-4. Faine is stinking up the joint this year that if FOR SURE! Agree BENTLEY, hands down!

10-25-2007, 01:16 AM	#6
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Re: Jeff Faine Originally Posted by Euphoria if you wanna settle for adequate then I guess you are happy with 2-4. Faine is stinking up the joint this year that if FOR SURE! Agree BENTLEY, hands down! Euph, I am sure if the "Agree Bentley" part was a sarcastic remark. I actually agree, no sarcasm involved. There shouldn't even be an argument over this ridiculous comparison. To me, getting rid of Bentley was a bad mistake, but I have to live it. I think most of us can agree that Bentley was better. Last year, I had no problem with Faine...we were winning. No one is playing as well as they did last year except maybe Moore Karney, Weatherford, and Bullocks has improved. That's not saying much. I am happy with 2-4, but only after we lost the first four. I am disgusted from an overall standpoint. As far as the Faine/Bentley comparison, I still haven't got answer from my previous question. Which is, did ANYONE ever see Bentley get manhandled like Faine did in the Titans game? I don't think so. Bentley is a far better run blocker and pass blocker than Faine is, hands down. If the "I with Jeff Faine" club still don't believe me, then wait until the Jags game. Their DT's are the best in football and they'll eat Faine's lunch (if he plays). I hope he can improve and play better as goes for the rest of the team. Brown was looking bad the first couple games and looks to be going a lot better so it can happen. Let's just hope this offense can get their rhythm back and get going.