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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; ok we know how he has been here with limited talent so i did a little research on his past jobs to see if we might show improvement with talent improvement in 2002-2005 he was a linebacker coach for Dallas ...

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Old 01-31-2008, 06:09 PM   #1
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my thoughts on Gary Gibbs

ok we know how he has been here with limited talent so i did a little research on his past jobs to see if we might show improvement with talent improvement
in 2002-2005 he was a linebacker coach for Dallas in his first NFL job
He did real well at that role in Dallas, in my opinion.In 2001 He was DC at LSU
and Gibbs' defensive unit finished the year ranked 21st nationally in rushing yards allowed and also led the SEC in interceptions with 18, picking off at least two passes in six of 12 games. In 2000 While at Georgia, his defense ranked 19th in the nation in total defense and 12th in scoring defense, allowing just 18 points-per-game.1989-1994 he was head coach of Oklahoma During his six seasons as the head coach at Oklahoma (1989-94), Gibbs guided the Sooners to three bowl games and an overall record of 44-23-2. In his first three seasons after taking over the program from Barry Switzer, Gibbs continued the school's pattern of success, improving Oklahoma's record each season, from 7-4 as a rookie head coach, to 8-3 in the second year. A 9-3 season in 1991, his third year at the helm, included a 48-14 win over Virginia in the 1991 Gator Bowl. In 1981, Gibbs was named the Sooners defensive coordinator, and he held that post until taking over as head coach in 1989. During his tenure as Oklahoma's defensive coordinator, the Sooners captured the 1985 national title, and their defense led the nation in total defense three straight years (1985-87) and twice finished first in rushing defense (1986 and 1987).
ok through my research i have come to the conclusion that Gibbs has to be better than he has shown us. He has had success everywhere else. maybe just maybe we give him so good young players and he has success here.
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:06 PM   #2
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I cant blame everything on Gibbs. He just need good players to get the job done. You really cant blame Gibbs for Jason David getting burnt, or safties or defensive linemen not doing their job right. Hes trying to make good things happen for the defense but the lack of talent is not showing the full potential of his work.
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:02 PM   #3
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I've probably said a few things about Gibbs that was less than positive, but I really do not think he is a bad coach. He does have some serious shortages in the talent area. I do think he needs to get a little more creative with the play calling and schemes, considering that there are talent shortages. If and when the front office decides to make a run at improving the defense, personal wise, Gibbs should shine.
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:27 AM   #4
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I think you would be amazed at what a hard-nosed REAL middle linebacker would do for the toughness on our defense saintmissile. I think that the type of players we have on D have more to do with how soft we are rather than coaching. I am of the opinion that defenses take on the persona of their MLB most of the time. How much softer can you get than Mark Simoneau?

And for the Venturi reference, when did he ever have talent either? I'm glad he's gone too, but we don't know how good he may have been if he had say the Ravens' defensive players in his arsenal.

Fact is, we have only had 4 steady performers on defense for the last few years: Scott Fujita, Will Smith, Charles Grant, and Mike McKenzie. On top of that, two of those players (Smith and Grant) haven't even really been that consistent. You can't have a good defense with only 4 good players, especially when 1 or 2 of them tend to disappear each game. Give us some playmakers and see what Gibbs does with them. If he fails, get his butt outta here!
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I think you would be amazed at what a hard-nosed REAL middle linebacker would do for the toughness on our defense saintmissile. I think that the type of players we have on D have more to do with how soft we are rather than coaching. I am of the opinion that defenses take on the persona of their MLB most of the time. How much softer can you get than Mark Simoneau?

And for the Venturi reference, when did he ever have talent either? I'm glad he's gone too, but we don't know how good he may have been if he had say the Ravens' defensive players in his arsenal.

Fact is, we have only had 4 steady performers on defense for the last few years: Scott Fujita, Will Smith, Charles Grant, and Mike McKenzie. On top of that, two of those players (Smith and Grant) haven't even really been that consistent. You can't have a good defense with only 4 good players, especially when 1 or 2 of them tend to disappear each game. Give us some playmakers and see what Gibbs does with them. If he fails, get his butt outta here!
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Old 02-03-2008, 04:51 AM   #7
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It kind makes me wonder what our def would be like if we had more talent that could cover our poor play at times. I promise you better linebackers will help the Dline and the DB play a heck of alot better
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:58 PM   #8
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Was just curious about how the DC affects our soft defense? Are there defensive coaches who tell their players go out and hit hard? Then if you have a bad defense it is the coaches fault for telling his players go out there and try not to get anybody hurt. Did he tell his players lets make some stops but I dont want anybody hitting to hard?
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Old 02-04-2008, 08:09 AM   #9
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The retirement home for wayward defensive players in the NFL is New Orleans. A Youthful id coming both in the draft and FA under the age of 28. Has to.
Imagine if you can what would have happened if Bush was pick at #1 and Hawk came here. The accelerated building of the offense would not have happened. Gibbs could do nothing about that one. So now we have depth on OL that is good enough for us to develope picks. That is a big plus. RB in limbo, WR at #2 and 4 are in limbo as is TE.
So where else can we go? DEFENSE!!!! Gibbs time has arrived. Now lets see what he does with it.
David is going to be great at the nickle, just watch. He gets LB and S help there. I am waiting to see the secondary and LBer moves this year. Ilove defense. I am almost as giddy as a little school girl.

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The retirement home for wayward defensive players in the NFL is New Orleans. A Youthful id coming both in the draft and FA under the age of 28. Has to.
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