Draft eve buzz

pakowitz · 04-25-2008, 07:52 PM

As we head into the last evening before the NFL draft, I'm going to try not to be a rumor-mongerer. Rather, I'm going to tell you what I heard reliably throughout the day Friday, in this final pre-draft edition of ...

Five Things I Think I Think

1. I think -- and I'm gonna go in chronological order here -- I can't tell you anything more about the Rams than you probably already know because they're bottled up pretty tight this evening. My gut feeling is they'll take Chris Long over Glenn Dorsey, though the defensive staff clearly would prefer Dorsey.

2. I think the most likely scenario at No. 3 is for the Falcons to take Boston College QB Matt Ryan. Now, understand that GM Thomas Dmitroff absolutely loves Dorsey. Would it stun me if the Ryan thing didn't happen? It would be a surprise, but not a stunner, because I know how much this team loves Dorsey. However, the chance to get a quarterback for the next 10 years that the coaching stuff likes a lot, almost universally, could be too much for the Falcons to pass up.

3. I think the next bit of drama -- after, in my scenario, the Raiders taking Dorsey -- is what the Chiefs will do at No. 5. As I wrote 11 days ago, there's a high likelihood that the Patriots, at No. 7, and the Jets, at No. 6, could both be in contention for this pick if Chris Long is still on the board. My scenario has him gone. But as long as Long is available at No. 5, I expect the Jets and Patriots, who both like him a lot, to make inquiries with the Chiefs (and I'm sure it's be done already) to acquire the fifth pick.

4. I think the most interesting team, if only for the number of directions they could be headed Saturday afternoon, is New Orleans. The unlikeliest scenario is New Orleans trading up to get Dorsey because the Saints will not have enough ammunition. More likely is a trade from their spot at No. 10 to the Ravens at No. 8 or the Pats at No. 7 if USC's Sedrick Ellis is still on the board. Ellis is the Saints' preferred choice behind Dorsey. Now, let's say that the other team that likes Ellis, Cincinnati, trumps New Orleans and picks Ellis. Then the Saints will be very much in the market to trade down and to pick one of the corners that have first-round grades like Leodis McKelvin of Troy or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie from TSU.
5. I think these are the most interesting stories traveling over the phone lines tonight and into Saturday morning:

• The Eagles are asking too much for Lito Sheppard, the cornerback who wants a new big-money contract. Philly talked to Tampa Bay, but the Bucs are not interested in surrendering their second-round pick because they'd also have to pay Sheppard just under what the premier corners have been making the past few seasons. That's too much. I expect Sheppard to end this weekend as an Eagle.

• Kansas City has had dialogue with Buffalo at No. 11 about trading up if premier left tackle Ryan Clady is still on the board.

• The cornerback more teams have atop their board than anyone else is McKelvin. One team views him as the Albert Lewis of this draft -- he's a former Pro Bowl corner for the Chiefs for you new-school folks reading -- a smooth, very quick, totally unafraid kid who will make an easy transition to the next level.

• I don't see any receiver getting traded this weekend but I wouldn't be shocked if the Raiders traded DE Derrick Burgess.

jeanpierre · 04-25-2008, 08:31 PM

If the Saints land both Shockey and Dorsey, it'll be the biggest coup since Farmer, Ted landed the Prom Queen!

hagan714 · 04-25-2008, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

If the Saints land both Shockey and Dorsey, it'll be the biggest coup since Farmer, Ted landed the Prom Queen!

lol now i have to see that again lol

LordOfEntropy · 04-25-2008, 09:25 PM

4. I think the most interesting team, if only for the number of directions they could be headed Saturday afternoon, is New Orleans. The unlikeliest scenario is New Orleans trading up to get Dorsey because the Saints will not have enough ammunition. More likely is a trade from their spot at No. 10 to the Ravens at No. 8 or the Pats at No. 7 if USC's Sedrick Ellis is still on the board. Ellis is the Saints' preferred choice behind Dorsey. Now, let's say that the other team that likes Ellis, Cincinnati, trumps New Orleans and picks Ellis. Then the Saints will be very much in the market to trade down and to pick one of the corners that have first-round grades like Leodis McKelvin of Troy or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie from TSU.

Sensible. But interesting that Rivers isn't even mentioned.

phatoosdey · 04-25-2008, 10:15 PM

i'm working on my draft eve buzz at this very moment
4 down...who knows how many to go
i got a 7:30am tee time tomorrow so i can't get too crazy but its friday...and what better day for a good buzz

D_it_up · 04-26-2008, 10:13 AM

Hey, phatoosdey......There is too much water in that fridge on your avatar.

jeanpierre · 04-26-2008, 01:09 PM

If the Ravens move up I'll have yet another reason to really hate the Ravens...hate leads suffering...suffering leads to the Darkside...

But I digress...

If the indicated three (3) of Long, Longer, and Ryan fall into play, it'll be interesting to see what the Raiders would demand for compensation to trade with the Saints...

I can't stand C Peterson of the Chiefs and he's a muther to deal with; but the Chiefs and Saints would make alot of sense for both parties...

04-25-2008, 07:52 PM	#1
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Draft eve buzz As we head into the last evening before the NFL draft, I'm going to try not to be a rumor-mongerer. Rather, I'm going to tell you what I heard reliably throughout the day Friday, in this final pre-draft edition of ... Five Things I Think I Think 1. I think -- and I'm gonna go in chronological order here -- I can't tell you anything more about the Rams than you probably already know because they're bottled up pretty tight this evening. My gut feeling is they'll take Chris Long over Glenn Dorsey, though the defensive staff clearly would prefer Dorsey. 2. I think the most likely scenario at No. 3 is for the Falcons to take Boston College QB Matt Ryan. Now, understand that GM Thomas Dmitroff absolutely loves Dorsey. Would it stun me if the Ryan thing didn't happen? It would be a surprise, but not a stunner, because I know how much this team loves Dorsey. However, the chance to get a quarterback for the next 10 years that the coaching stuff likes a lot, almost universally, could be too much for the Falcons to pass up. 3. I think the next bit of drama -- after, in my scenario, the Raiders taking Dorsey -- is what the Chiefs will do at No. 5. As I wrote 11 days ago, there's a high likelihood that the Patriots, at No. 7, and the Jets, at No. 6, could both be in contention for this pick if Chris Long is still on the board. My scenario has him gone. But as long as Long is available at No. 5, I expect the Jets and Patriots, who both like him a lot, to make inquiries with the Chiefs (and I'm sure it's be done already) to acquire the fifth pick. 4. I think the most interesting team, if only for the number of directions they could be headed Saturday afternoon, is New Orleans. The unlikeliest scenario is New Orleans trading up to get Dorsey because the Saints will not have enough ammunition. More likely is a trade from their spot at No. 10 to the Ravens at No. 8 or the Pats at No. 7 if USC's Sedrick Ellis is still on the board. Ellis is the Saints' preferred choice behind Dorsey. Now, let's say that the other team that likes Ellis, Cincinnati, trumps New Orleans and picks Ellis. Then the Saints will be very much in the market to trade down and to pick one of the corners that have first-round grades like Leodis McKelvin of Troy or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie from TSU. 5. I think these are the most interesting stories traveling over the phone lines tonight and into Saturday morning: • The Eagles are asking too much for Lito Sheppard, the cornerback who wants a new big-money contract. Philly talked to Tampa Bay, but the Bucs are not interested in surrendering their second-round pick because they'd also have to pay Sheppard just under what the premier corners have been making the past few seasons. That's too much. I expect Sheppard to end this weekend as an Eagle. • Kansas City has had dialogue with Buffalo at No. 11 about trading up if premier left tackle Ryan Clady is still on the board. • The cornerback more teams have atop their board than anyone else is McKelvin. One team views him as the Albert Lewis of this draft -- he's a former Pro Bowl corner for the Chiefs for you new-school folks reading -- a smooth, very quick, totally unafraid kid who will make an easy transition to the next level. • I don't see any receiver getting traded this weekend but I wouldn't be shocked if the Raiders traded DE Derrick Burgess.
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04-25-2008, 08:31 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Draft eve buzz If the Saints land both Shockey and Dorsey, it'll be the biggest coup since Farmer, Ted landed the Prom Queen!

04-25-2008, 08:43 PM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Draft eve buzz Originally Posted by jeanpierre If the Saints land both Shockey and Dorsey, it'll be the biggest coup since Farmer, Ted landed the Prom Queen! lol now i have to see that again lol

04-25-2008, 09:25 PM	#4
LordOfEntropy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 1,838	Re: Draft eve buzz 4. I think the most interesting team, if only for the number of directions they could be headed Saturday afternoon, is New Orleans. The unlikeliest scenario is New Orleans trading up to get Dorsey because the Saints will not have enough ammunition. More likely is a trade from their spot at No. 10 to the Ravens at No. 8 or the Pats at No. 7 if USC's Sedrick Ellis is still on the board. Ellis is the Saints' preferred choice behind Dorsey. Now, let's say that the other team that likes Ellis, Cincinnati, trumps New Orleans and picks Ellis. Then the Saints will be very much in the market to trade down and to pick one of the corners that have first-round grades like Leodis McKelvin of Troy or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie from TSU. Sensible. But interesting that Rivers isn't even mentioned.

04-25-2008, 10:15 PM	#5
phatoosdey Drunkagen Join Date: May 2007 Location: kenner Posts: 356	Re: Draft eve buzz i'm working on my draft eve buzz at this very moment 4 down...who knows how many to go i got a 7:30am tee time tomorrow so i can't get too crazy but its friday...and what better day for a good buzz

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04-26-2008, 10:13 AM	#6
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04-26-2008, 01:09 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Draft eve buzz If the Ravens move up I'll have yet another reason to really hate the Ravens...hate leads suffering...suffering leads to the Darkside... But I digress... If the indicated three (3) of Long, Longer, and Ryan fall into play, it'll be interesting to see what the Raiders would demand for compensation to trade with the Saints... I can't stand C Peterson of the Chiefs and he's a muther to deal with; but the Chiefs and Saints would make alot of sense for both parties...