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It has been nearly four full seasons now, more than enough time for a verdict on Reggie Bush.

The No. 2 overall pick in the 2006 draft has precisely one 100-yard rushing game in his career and that came in his rookie season. He has only two career games in which heís carried the ball 20 times and he has carrried more than 10 times in only one game this season. Heís missed 12 career games because of injuries and never really has come close to what he did back in his days as a Heisman Trophy winner at USC.

Time to call him a bust?

No, donít do it. If you do, youíre missing the big picture. Donít call Bush a bust and, please, donít call him a running back. The Saints finally have discovered that tag doesnít really apply to Bush.

Simply call him a football player or a jack of all trades. When it comes to judging Bush, you have to take everything he does into account. Do that and the sum can be pretty respectable.

ďI thought Reggie Bush was outstanding,íí coach Sean Payton said Sunday, moments after a 26-23 victory against Atlanta.

Bush had six carries for 33 yards. You call that outstanding?

Actually, it was, and this is where the part about Bush being a running back really kicks in. Heís a running back in title only and the Saints list him as the starter at that position. But truth be told, Pierre Thomas really holds that role and when heís not on the field, Mike Bell usually steps into his place.

Bush is also a wide receiver, a slot receiver and a return man. If you want the real story on what he did Sunday against the Falcons, look at these numbers: 102 yards and two touchdowns. Weíre talking all-purpose yards and the two scores came on passes.

Thatís in the ballpark of outstanding. But what was really outstanding about Sunday was the way Payton used Bush. You didnít see him on the field all that much. But it seemed like every snap Bush got, he was in position to make an impact play.

His six carries included a 19-yard run. His six catches totaled 46 yards and included touchdowns of 21 and six yards. His only punt return was a 23-yarder, his best of the season.

Do yourself a favor and stop expecting Bush to be the second coming Ė- and more Ė- of Deuce McAllister. If anything, Bush is more like the second coming of Terry Metcalf, the triple threat (runner, receiver and return man) with the St. Louis Cardinals back in the 1970s and with the Washington Redskins in 1981.

Thatís not a shot at Bush at all. Thatís a compliment. Bush can do a little bit of everything and do it well. Maybe the key here is to just let him do a little bit of everything to get maximum results.

Take those 13 touches Sunday and realize Bush wasnít on the field for many more than 13 snaps. Itís taken Payton and the New Orleans coaching staff a while to figure it out, but maybe they finally discovered the right equation for Bush.

Give him 12 to 15 touches and heíll give you 100 yards and, sometimes, a couple of touchdowns. Isnít that, at least in some ways, as good as giving Bush 20 or so carries? Actually, itís probably better.

Despite making a lot of noise in the preseason about how this would be the year Bush proved he could run between the tackles, he hasnít even had that chance. Apparently the Saints decided Bush couldnít run behind the tackles consistently, and thatís turned out to be one of the better decisions Payton and his staff have ever made.

Theyíre letting Thomas and Bell do the running and thatís worked out surprisingly well. The Saints suddenly have a running game. In Bush, theyíve also got a nice change-of-pace back and Payton has been getting him into open space as a runner. Thatís where Bush is at his best and thatís why he also is a threat in the passing and return games.

"I'm always anxious to make plays," Bush said.

The irony here is the Saints arenít putting Bush on the field nearly as much as they have at some points in the past, yet theyíre getting results out of him. Theyíre maximizing his chances at big plays by letting him do the things he does best when he is on the field.

"He's just been patient, keeps working hard, and he's doing a great job,íí Payton said.

Kind of funny that the Saints are singing Bushís praises at a time when thereís been a fair amount of speculation that this could be his last season with the team. Itís easy to understand where that comes from. Bush is being paid like a No. 2 overall draft pick, but heís not cranking out 1,000-yard rushing seasons and the injury history suggests Bush might be a little brittle.

But Iím believing more and more that Bush will stay with the Saints. The NFL is heading into a 2010 season without a salary cap, so itís not as if the Saints canít afford to keep Bush. In fact, it might be more likely that they canít afford not to keep him. Especially when you look at days like Sunday and realize that the Saints appear to finally have found the formula to get what they should get from Bush.

Donít expect him to run for 100 yards a game. Just let Bush go out and be Bush. Let him be himself and Bush is not a bust.

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Old 12-18-2009, 01:03 PM   #2
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Re: Saints may finally have formula for Bush

Very well said. Bush is not an accurate comparison candidate against any other back. If Peyton finds a way to keep him in space, he will help us win footbal games.
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Re: Saints may finally have formula for Bush

Any old timer would tell you he reminds you of Terry Metcalf, but Metcalf was drafted in the 3rd round and never expected to be the second coming.

Next year, Reggie will have to play for a lot less with any team he decides to go to.




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Any old timer would tell you he reminds you of Terry Metcalf, but Metcalf was drafted in the 3rd round and never expected to be the second coming.

Next year, Reggie will have to play for a lot less with any team he decides to go to.

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You mean his son Eric Metcalf?

Bush is a lot like Eric Metcalf, but without the pro-bowls.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:20 PM   #5
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He will demand more money than he is worth & therefore he will be playing on a different team.
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Honestly, I do get what is said, limit Bush and get max production. Heck, I've been saying that for years now. The only problem is Bush is about to crack a new portion of his contract. Hopefully the Saints will win it all this year and Bush can be part of it, because I really do not believe he will be with the Saints next year. I've love Reggie Bush as a player, but seriously, it's a production vs money issue moving forward. Plus, he has lost some speed. Dude is still fast, but not like he was. His home run threat seems to be diminishing quick.
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It has been nearly four full seasons now, more than enough time for a verdict on Reggie Bush.

The No. 2 overall pick in the 2006 draft has precisely one 100-yard rushing game in his career and that came in his rookie season. He has only two career games in which heís carried the ball 20 times and he has carrried more than 10 times in only one game this season. Heís missed 12 career games because of injuries and never really has come close to what he did back in his days as a Heisman Trophy winner at USC.

Time to call him a bust?

No, donít do it. If you do, youíre missing the big picture. Donít call Bush a bust and, please, donít call him a running back. The Saints finally have discovered that tag doesnít really apply to Bush.

Simply call him a football player or a jack of all trades. When it comes to judging Bush, you have to take everything he does into account. Do that and the sum can be pretty respectable.

ďI thought Reggie Bush was outstanding,íí coach Sean Payton said Sunday, moments after a 26-23 victory against Atlanta.

Bush had six carries for 33 yards. You call that outstanding?

Actually, it was, and this is where the part about Bush being a running back really kicks in. Heís a running back in title only and the Saints list him as the starter at that position. But truth be told, Pierre Thomas really holds that role and when heís not on the field, Mike Bell usually steps into his place.

Bush is also a wide receiver, a slot receiver and a return man. If you want the real story on what he did Sunday against the Falcons, look at these numbers: 102 yards and two touchdowns. Weíre talking all-purpose yards and the two scores came on passes.

Thatís in the ballpark of outstanding. But what was really outstanding about Sunday was the way Payton used Bush. You didnít see him on the field all that much. But it seemed like every snap Bush got, he was in position to make an impact play.

His six carries included a 19-yard run. His six catches totaled 46 yards and included touchdowns of 21 and six yards. His only punt return was a 23-yarder, his best of the season.

Do yourself a favor and stop expecting Bush to be the second coming Ė- and more Ė- of Deuce McAllister. If anything, Bush is more like the second coming of Terry Metcalf, the triple threat (runner, receiver and return man) with the St. Louis Cardinals back in the 1970s and with the Washington Redskins in 1981.

Thatís not a shot at Bush at all. Thatís a compliment. Bush can do a little bit of everything and do it well. Maybe the key here is to just let him do a little bit of everything to get maximum results.

Take those 13 touches Sunday and realize Bush wasnít on the field for many more than 13 snaps. Itís taken Payton and the New Orleans coaching staff a while to figure it out, but maybe they finally discovered the right equation for Bush.

Give him 12 to 15 touches and heíll give you 100 yards and, sometimes, a couple of touchdowns. Isnít that, at least in some ways, as good as giving Bush 20 or so carries? Actually, itís probably better.

Despite making a lot of noise in the preseason about how this would be the year Bush proved he could run between the tackles, he hasnít even had that chance. Apparently the Saints decided Bush couldnít run behind the tackles consistently, and thatís turned out to be one of the better decisions Payton and his staff have ever made.

Theyíre letting Thomas and Bell do the running and thatís worked out surprisingly well. The Saints suddenly have a running game. In Bush, theyíve also got a nice change-of-pace back and Payton has been getting him into open space as a runner. Thatís where Bush is at his best and thatís why he also is a threat in the passing and return games.

"I'm always anxious to make plays," Bush said.

The irony here is the Saints arenít putting Bush on the field nearly as much as they have at some points in the past, yet theyíre getting results out of him. Theyíre maximizing his chances at big plays by letting him do the things he does best when he is on the field.

"He's just been patient, keeps working hard, and he's doing a great job,íí Payton said.

Kind of funny that the Saints are singing Bushís praises at a time when thereís been a fair amount of speculation that this could be his last season with the team. Itís easy to understand where that comes from. Bush is being paid like a No. 2 overall draft pick, but heís not cranking out 1,000-yard rushing seasons and the injury history suggests Bush might be a little brittle.

But Iím believing more and more that Bush will stay with the Saints. The NFL is heading into a 2010 season without a salary cap, so itís not as if the Saints canít afford to keep Bush. In fact, it might be more likely that they canít afford not to keep him. Especially when you look at days like Sunday and realize that the Saints appear to finally have found the formula to get what they should get from Bush.

Donít expect him to run for 100 yards a game. Just let Bush go out and be Bush. Let him be himself and Bush is not a bust.
very well put i always said if bush goes down the road he's going to come back and bite us on the ass, because somebody like the patriots will use him just like were using him now finally getting all quality out of him
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We win the SB and Bush will go back to San Diego or the 49ers. He would have no reason to stay unless he believed we could repeat.
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Old 12-19-2009, 01:50 AM   #9
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I think he should stay. The only team i think that would come close to making reggie fit in their offense would be arizona.
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If he accepts a reduced salary, I see no reason why he can't stay. We shall all see after we win the Superbowl!
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