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View Poll Results: Who was more responsible for Saints 17-30 butt whippin we got from the browns?
Defense 1 2.94%
Offense 6 17.65%
Brees 15 44.12%
O-line 11 32.35%
Special teams 10 29.41%
Coaching 7 20.59%
Refs 2 5.88%
A combination of everybody.. They all contributed and lost this game. 9 26.47%
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:24 PM   #11
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The funny thing is.......

Hartley is probably saying to himself...."Finally, it's not my fault".
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:29 PM   #12
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Your not wrong... This one is on the O, badly!!
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Old 10-24-2010, 06:58 PM   #13
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I think everyone of them sucked equally. As a team they blew completely.
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Old 10-24-2010, 10:27 PM   #14
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At the sametime i don't want to take any of this loss from the Browns, they did their job to take advantage of our errors and put their foot in our butts.
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Old 10-24-2010, 10:45 PM   #15
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Every loss is a combo-loss...just like every win is a combo-win. Its true, some players play a bigger part than others, but everyone has to do their job for us to get solid wins. The Browns had people in all the right places, which means they weren't in other places, which is where we should have been going. No matter how you write it up or scheme it out, its still 11 on 11, and they did a better job with their eleven. Poor decisions and poor execution produced poor results. That's the way it works.

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Old 10-25-2010, 06:00 AM   #16
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My Take:

Special Teams (Greg McMahon): Is it the players or the Special Teams Coach. Our punt team was not prepared for the lateral. That being said, after that play everyone watching the game should have known the Browns were going to do the unexpected. The fake punt should have been the first thing to come to mind when the Browns were going to punt. Greg McMahon should have warned them about the unexpected... which should have become the expected.

They were all asleep at the wheel.

Drew/Sean Payton: Any father worth his salt as a father should have and would have been tired on Sunday, just 4 days after his son was born.
Chase Daniel should have started by default. Drew looked tired and un-rested. Under thrown passes, poor judgment, frustration, he should have never been on the field.

Offensive Line: Drew was sacked multiple times, backs were tackled in the backfield for losses, Ivory got stuffed as soon as the ball was in his hands. He played better than his numbers.

Penalties: Only a true dumbazz gets a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct, when the original penalty was blatant and he knew he was guilty.

Referees: I will start this by saying, we played like crap and i am not blaming the refs for our loss or bad play. HOWEVER.... Where did the NFL find these guys? The call on Sharper was NOT a penalty, and do these guys actually know what is, and what is not a reviewable play?

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Old 10-25-2010, 06:19 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Saintswrath View Post
You laid a nice wet one in the Superdome and left a stain on the Turf.

Here most of us thought the Saints finally turned it around, and getting back some defensive weapons we thought we were even more improved and you guys show up and bring us back down to earth again..

Cardinals found that same element and drilled it in us hard.

Do whatever you did today and win out otherwise this game is just a fluke and it shows proof that Saints kicked their own asses and you had nothing to do with it..

I personally think Brees and the O-line is what let this team down today, the D also didn't play their game, no strips and browns was nearly able to run at will on us..
We were also out coached..

But thats my opinion. use the poll and the thread to settle this debate.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:08 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
No Greer, Porter, Shanle, Bush, Pierre...

Cleveland has a solid O line that pushed us around all day.
It may not be a popular idea but I believe it's a large part of the problem.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:24 PM   #19
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defense played well enough to win this game. its all of the rest. the browns played with a fire. and we did'nt on the 0
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