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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; When he said he thought the Saints would go 2-14, that was a good point to quit arguing with him. The Saints would win more than 2 games if Sean Canfield was our starting QB....

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Old 09-09-2011, 06:44 PM   #31
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When he said he thought the Saints would go 2-14, that was a good point to quit arguing with him. The Saints would win more than 2 games if Sean Canfield was our starting QB.
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Old 09-09-2011, 07:16 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
I say we really can't judge yet... But I still have the grade as a A for now.

Cam Jordan, just have not seen him do anything yet. Hell I never even heard his name being called either.
The point of the thread was that last night's game demonstrates that you don't geaux annointing someone "Executive of the Year" until you've seen the product during the season...

My past and current criticism of Loomis is because I try to look at the total picture rather than this signing or that draft pick...

Loomis has done some good things such as hiring Sean Payton...

Now, I've been a fan of Bush, but as many of you have posted, he's been a huge disappointment for many - and some of that criticism is rightfully cited.
Well, Loomis was in the room for that.

And why do we praise Loomis for picking Colston in Round 7 when all teams missed for six-plus previous rounds of picks and because he came up lotto in round 7, Loomis gets "Executive of the Year" - that just makes me scratch my head...

There were some obvious signings this year that made alot of sense and look good on paper; but where were the Outside Linebackers and Left Tackle splashes? We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps. See, it's a glass empty/full kinda thing.

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Old 09-09-2011, 07:46 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
The point of the thread was that last night's game demonstrates that you don't geaux annointing someone "Executive of the Year" until you've seen the product during the season...
I don't believe anyone anointed him preseason Executive of the Year. If so, please feel free to link it back to that thread. The fact of the matter is, he has been given that award yet to continue to criticism and call him an idiot.

My past and current criticism of Loomis is because I try to look at the total picture rather than this signing or that draft pick...
Wait for it... wait for it...

Now, I've been a fan of Bush, but as many of you have posted, he's been a huge disappointment for many - and some of that criticism is rightfully cited.
Well, Loomis was in the room for that.

And why do we praise Loomis for picking Colston in Round 7 when all teams missed for six-plus previous rounds of picks and because he came up lotto in round 7, Loomis gets "Executive of the Year" - that just makes me scratch my head...
You see anything wrong with post? You contradicted yourself.

If you truly were looking at the total picture, you'd take off your anti-Loomis badge off your chest and start acknowledge all the good things he's done here... and it's a lot.

There were some obvious signings this year that made alot of sense and look good on paper; but where were the Outside Linebackers and Left Tackle splashes? We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps. See, it's a glass empty/full kinda thing.
We drafted a very promising OLB, brought in Herring who they obviously felt could contribute, drafted a promising Charles Brown, and retained a SuperBowl starting/winning LT in Jermon Bushrod. We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps? What discounting Loomis for getting him down and under contract for less money elsewhere? Typical. It's half full for you jp, you wear that badge proud.

Loomis has done some good things such as hiring Sean Payton...
That's the only thing that we'd agree on... since you fail to recognize everything else.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

All little common sense goes a long way.
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Old 09-09-2011, 07:49 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by papz View Post
You see anything wrong with post? You contradicted yourself.
What?

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension?

How did I contradict myself?

You seem to read more into a post than what is posted.

And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters?

Since when is it so offensive to question his moves?

This is the United States of America. Free Speech.

I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits...

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Old 09-09-2011, 09:34 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
What?

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension?
I hit a nerve? Want me to re-shine your badge for you?

How did I contradict myself?

You seem to read more into a post than what is posted.
I read that at face value.

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading comprehension?

And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters?
Nah, I just don't like it when bias and spoiled Saints fan rag on him for ridiculous reasons when all he has done is turn this franchise around.

Since when is it so offensive to question his moves?

This is the United States of America. Free Speech.
It is free speech. Is anyone hindering your ability to whine? Not me.

I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits...
Incorrect... take off your blinders.

An NFC Championship game, multiple winning seasons, a Superbowl ring, the acquistion of a franchise changing quarterback, hiring one of the best HC's in the league, one of the top DC's in the league, the drafting of two All Pro type guards, one of the biggest 7th round steals in recent memory, a Pro Bowl safety, another future all pro FS, the signing of Jabari Greer who helped us win a Superbowl, a drafting of Porter won us a Superbowl, numerous of discounted free agency steals, being one of the top cap-ologist in the league, the numerous impact UDFA signings like Lance Moore and Pierre Thomas, so on and so forth... and that's just off the top of my head.

So clearly, like you mentioned earlier... you like to look at the whole entire picture. There's obviously no unwarranted anti-Loomis bias working here... you just call it like you see. You realist you. Continue to wear that badge loud and proud my friend... lookin' sharp as always.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:25 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
What?

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension?

How did I contradict myself?

You seem to read more into a post than what is posted.

And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters?

Since when is it so offensive to question his moves?

This is the United States of America. Free Speech.

I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits...

Do you understand that the right to free speech is a protection from the government? There is no government agency here, just a bunch of Saints' fans on a private forum. The right to free speech does not protect you from us calling you a titty baby when you act like one.

Titty baby.


(Man, it's been a long time since I have even heard that term used, but it certainly does fit).
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:51 PM   #37
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No. I've been a fan since 1967 and a season ticket holder since the late 80s. I didn't want to bore everyone by listing the contents of every package for 20+ years. I think 2005 and 2006 are probably the most telling. Some of us didn't give up on the them. That doesn't make me some kind of eternal optimist though. The Saints are what they are.
dude i've been a fan since 67 also at 9 years old. but today u can go internet and get all that banner stuff, and i was in tiger stadium for most of the games so don't mock this board because some other people were there too okay. thanks, S.T.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:52 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by papz View Post
I hit a nerve? Want me to re-shine your badge for you?



I read that at face value.

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading comprehension?



Nah, I just don't like it when bias and spoiled Saints fan rag on him for ridiculous reasons when all he has done is turn this franchise around.



It is free speech. Is anyone hindering your ability to whine? Not me.



Incorrect... take off your blinders.

An NFC Championship game, multiple winning seasons, a Superbowl ring, the acquistion of a franchise changing quarterback, hiring one of the best HC's in the league, one of the top DC's in the league, the drafting of two All Pro type guards, one of the biggest 7th round steals in recent memory, a Pro Bowl safety, another future all pro FS, the signing of Jabari Greer who helped us win a Superbowl, a drafting of Porter won us a Superbowl, numerous of discounted free agency steals, being one of the top cap-ologist in the league, the numerous impact UDFA signings like Lance Moore and Pierre Thomas, so on and so forth... and that's just off the top of my head.

So clearly, like you mentioned earlier... you like to look at the whole entire picture. There's obviously no unwarranted anti-Loomis bias working here... you just call it like you see. You realist you. Continue to wear that badge loud and proud my friend... lookin' sharp as always.
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Do you understand that the right to free speech is a protection from the government? There is no government agency here, just a bunch of Saints' fans on a private forum. The right to free speech does not protect you from us calling you a titty baby when you act like one.

Titty baby.


(Man, it's been a long time since I have even heard that term used, but it certainly does fit).
Boy some of these lines seem to indicate it's a special time of the month...

Some of these posts indicate a few people should get a room or something...

You don't like it, make an argument against it; some people take this stuff way too personal...

Must be a shortcoming or something outside of cyberspace...
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:46 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Boy some of these lines seem to indicate it's a special time of the month...

Some of these posts indicate a few people should get a room or something...

You don't like it, make an argument against it; some people take this stuff way too personal...

Must be a shortcoming or something outside of cyberspace...

But I already know it would be a complete waste of time to argue with you about Loomis. I am assuming you follow the team and are not ignorant of how far this team has come under him.

You are just spoiled. There is nothing I can do about that (other than point and laugh).
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