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The Dude 09-28-2011 10:35 PM

Confession time: Who here wanted Culpepper?
 
I have to humbly admit that I was one of those who wanted Culpepper over Brees. I thought Culpepper had a better chance of recovering from injury than Brees did and had seen him torch our defense many times. Thank God the FO doesnt listen to me. That could have been a disaster.

jcp026 09-28-2011 10:56 PM

That's brave of you to admit. I was all for signing Brees. During Brooks' last couple of seasons I started every Madden franchise by trading for Brees or sometimes Phillip Rivers, just because he could be had for less. NEVER CULPEPPER!

QBREES9 09-28-2011 11:30 PM

Never in a million years. Never.

lumm0x 09-28-2011 11:40 PM

There have been some crap players I have petitioned for over the years but Culpepper was not one of them.

AlaskaSaints 09-29-2011 03:55 AM

WHO?!

LOL

Alaska

Saint_LB 09-29-2011 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 334825)
There have been some crap players I have petitioned for over the years but Culpepper was not one of them.

I have to admit that I wanted Fourcade over Hebert and Walsh. When they traded for Walsh, I was pretty upset. When they started him after only being here a week or so, I called the Jim Mora show after a loss and told Mora he was an idiot...in so many words.

mighty12 09-29-2011 05:42 AM

I can remember some heated debate about the Brees signing. Quite a few people were skeptical his shoulder would hold up. Not this guy! I also thought Matt Leinart was a safe pick that year. So, you win some, you lose some.

TheKillerBs 09-29-2011 07:25 AM

I definitely wanted Brees. As soon as I found out he was going to be a free agent, I crossed my fingers that the Saints would sign him.
I never really cared much for Culpepper. I thought Brees had the better skills. I had Brees on a couple fantasy teams, back when he was in San Diego.

FinSaint 09-29-2011 07:55 AM

I wanted the Saints to get him over Brees, and I'm not embarrassed to admit it.

My opinion was skewed because I rarely watched any Chargers' games, but I watched all Vikings' games, so I had no idea how great Brees could be if the surgery went successfully.


http://thestartingfive.net/wp-conten.../culpepper.jpg

Ashley 09-29-2011 07:57 AM

Wow, this is a pretty cool post. I can't really say because I didn't think either one was going to make it. I thought we were going for Matt Leinart in the draft, and he was going to take his lumps the first yr anyway.

Then I'd have to say I got caught up in all the Reggie hype on draft day.
Thinking it really didn't matter who was going to take the snaps. Because there was all those analyst and writers (you know the ones that put out those gay as polls) who said Reggie was the next Gale Sayers. I bought into that, like buying a lemon from a used car salesman!

papz 09-29-2011 08:20 AM

I'm not sure if I wanted Culpepper or not, but I do remember thinking the money we signed Brees for was excessive. Well... he was worth every penny and then some.

I also remember people ripping his arm strength and I thought it was completely overblown. I think I remember the exact play I used to prove my point. I believe it was a 50 yard laser he threw against the Jets for a touchdown.

WhoDat!656 09-29-2011 09:03 AM

I didn't want Culpepper when he was healthy!!

He couldn't do much, even with Cris Carter and Randy Moss, so what was he going to do with our receivers?

Speedy Ron 09-29-2011 09:23 AM

never did. i honestly was a brees fan before he came here. not his biggest fan but still a fan. Im a 5'9" guy so i like other little guys. im a huge sproles fan

FinSaint 09-29-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 334894)
He couldn't do much, even with Cris Carter and Randy Moss, so what was he going to do with our receivers?


Still be an upgrade to Aaron Brooks. :doh:

44Champs 09-29-2011 09:30 AM

Never. However, I'm so glad we've got Donte Stallpepper lol

Boutte 09-29-2011 10:16 AM

I wonder if Payton would have been able to save Culpepper's career. I always (up to that point) thought he was a pretty good QB. His first few games with the Dolphins he looked pretty good, then he just fell apart.

homerj07 09-29-2011 11:08 AM

Ok I may not have been sold on Drew - BUT I was sure as heck AGAINST Culpepper.

If he had been anywhere near where he had been before the knee injury I would have thought differently. BUT he wasn't & that was obvious!

strato 09-29-2011 11:13 AM

Brees all the way....

jcp026 09-29-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater (Post 334877)
Not me!.... but I do have to admit that I wanted go short term with Drew and give Leinart a try. In retrospect, D'brickashaw Ferguson is probably who we should have taken that year. It all worked out well though. Who would have thought our front office and coaching staff knew what they were doing??

Ferguson would have been a safe pick, but I would rather have tried to trade down and get Ngata and Mangold. I'll also admit that I got caught up in the Bush hype.

Halo 09-29-2011 11:53 AM

Never wanted Culpepper, sorry. Felt Drew was too young for the injury to hault his career, and he had way too much success at San Diego to pass over.

Fleured 09-29-2011 12:39 PM

I was always of the mind that Culpepper's days were best left in Minny. He was a benefactor of all the talent available to him on that loaded offense back in those days.
There are certain vibes about players I get when I know they will just light it up with particular teams. I had it immediately with Drew. I never thought he would challenge Marino for passing records but I knew he would be of great value.
Daunte was a good QB but I don't think he ever commanded true leadership qualities that head coaches and OCs would just hand the keys over to him the way QBs such as Brees and Peyton do.

iceshack149 09-29-2011 02:14 PM

I was all for an injured Brees over Culpepper. I was concerned with his injury but I wanted Brees for his mind over Culpepper's physical abilities. Culpepper seemed like a bigger Aaron Brooks to me.

nevergiveup3 09-29-2011 02:35 PM

Worse... I wanted Matt Leinhart.... thats why I pay $180 per game and drink beer

Budsdrinker 09-29-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevergiveup3 (Post 335010)
Worse... I wanted Matt Leinhart.... thats why I pay $180 per game and drink beer

I think I have you beat! I was wanting Cutler because I didn't think Bree's would be able to come back from that injury.

SaintsBro 09-29-2011 05:41 PM

Did not want Culpepper. I mainly just wanted Aaron Brooks gone.

Memnoch_TP 09-29-2011 05:43 PM

No. I remember it was just the talking heads calling Drew's injury career threatening. All the former players (including Archie) and medical folks like the surgeon to the stars Dr. Andrews (Even though he has since changed his story recently for more TV time) all said the injury was not career threatening.

I definitely wanted Brees the second I heard we had a shot at getting him. I had been paying a lot of attention to the Chargers at that point, mainly because of L.T. He was great fun to watch in his prime. I knew damn well Drew was a super high quality QB.

I did think Culpepper could be a good QB, but it was way too soon after his injury for him to be playing. He SHREDDED that knee. He tore the ACL, the MCL, AND the PCL. He should NOT have been on a football field at ALL that season.


Now, before the Drew option came up, the two QBs I was interested in were Kyle Boller and Jon Kitna. After a few rough years, it really looked like Boller finally got it! He was playing his ass off at the end of the '05 season. Then they replaced him with McNair. And Kitna I always felt was a good QB, stuck on a lousy Bengals team. I figured he could be the game manager that we needed in New Orleans. With Deuce and Horn and Pathon we had a good enough offense to win games as long as we had a QB who could actually read a defense and not throw the f'n ball backwards or drop it for no good reason.

mikesaintfan 09-29-2011 05:47 PM

i wanted to keep A.B. maybe not

but i never liked cullpepper

skymike 09-29-2011 05:52 PM

I was working about 70 hours a week, (thats my excuse, and I'm sticking
to it.) and actually missed out on a lot at that time, so I didnt know much
about Drew, and didnt imagine he would be anything special, afterall we were getting him. I thought that probably he, and Payton were just cheap to get, or something.

I wanted Matt Leinart.

Sad, but true. Wow, was I wrong.

Cruize 09-29-2011 05:54 PM

Didn't want him. But, I don't think he would have been awful under Payton.

saintfan 09-29-2011 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP (Post 335073)
No. I remember it was just the talking heads calling Drew's injury career threatening. All the former players (including Archie) and medical folks like the surgeon to the stars Dr. Andrews (Even though he has since changed his story recently for more TV time) all said the injury was not career threatening.

I definitely wanted Brees the second I heard we had a shot at getting him. I had been paying a lot of attention to the Chargers at that point, mainly because of L.T. He was great fun to watch in his prime. I knew damn well Drew was a super high quality QB.

I did think Culpepper could be a good QB, but it was way too soon after his injury for him to be playing. He SHREDDED that knee. He tore the ACL, the MCL, AND the PCL. He should NOT have been on a football field at ALL that season.


Now, before the Drew option came up, the two QBs I was interested in were Kyle Boller and Jon Kitna. After a few rough years, it really looked like Boller finally got it! He was playing his ass off at the end of the '05 season. Then they replaced him with McNair. And Kitna I always felt was a good QB, stuck on a lousy Bengals team. I figured he could be the game manager that we needed in New Orleans. With Deuce and Horn and Pathon we had a good enough offense to win games as long as we had a QB who could actually read a defense and not throw the f'n ball backwards or drop it for no good reason.

We were up near 30 points a game on average during that time as I recall...not to beat a dead horse or anything. :mrgreen:

papz 09-29-2011 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevergiveup3 (Post 335010)
Worse... I wanted Matt Leinhart.... thats why I pay $180 per game and drink beer

I was a big advocate for drafting Leinart as well. Goes to show you just never know how things work out and their are no sure things as far as draft picks are concerned.

RaginCajun83 09-29-2011 08:02 PM

I wanted Leinart at the time, I still thought even after signing Drew they were going to draft Leinart since Sean was/is a QB guru since Drew was such a high risk/reward when he signed .... I like my crow medium/well

FireVenturi 09-29-2011 10:52 PM

I Wanted anybody but AB by Jan of 06

foreverfan 09-29-2011 10:57 PM

I still have my Aaron Brooks jersey. Never wanted Culpepper. Lienhardt? Didn't really want him although I wouldn't have minded at the time.

RailBoss 09-30-2011 01:06 AM

No Culpepper was an unfinished book without an ending.

saintsfan1313 09-30-2011 01:38 PM

After Brooks, I wanted the Saints to eliminate the QB position all together, just to prevent any chance of a future occurence of the torment Brooks put us through the last 2 years or so.....

Joking aside, was in Brees' corner as soon as he went FA....as for the draft, i would have used the Bush hype to trade back and get Ngata....knew he was gunna go beast mode...........

UK_WhoDat 09-30-2011 04:20 PM

I did not want Culpepper.

Honest Guv!

vpheughan 09-30-2011 05:08 PM

Since we're playing the hindsight game. Did you know that the Saints in the 6th round of the 2000 draft took Marc Bulger. The Pats took a guy named Brady and of course we ALL KNEW how good Brady was going to be. If the Saints had taken Brady he would have suffered the same fate as Bulger, cut. After all we had a guy named Brooks and a coach who loved him!!


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