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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jokeray I've NEVER heard Matt Ryan called elite. Are you guys hearing that from Falcons fans or something? Seriously. John Clayton is the guiltiest of the bunch. Pat Yasinkas (ESPN South Blog) is another offender. ESPN in ...

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Old 01-12-2012, 02:34 PM   #41
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I've NEVER heard Matt Ryan called elite. Are you guys hearing that from Falcons fans or something?
Seriously. John Clayton is the guiltiest of the bunch. Pat Yasinkas (ESPN South Blog) is another offender. ESPN in general has included him in the 'elite' category from pretty much half-way through his rookie season.

We are all aware of why they do it. The league wants elite QBs, but it's offensive to just about anybody who knows much of anything about football to call Matt "Skid Britches" Ryan elite when the likes of Brady, Manning (either one really) and Drew are playing.
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Old 01-12-2012, 02:56 PM   #42
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Ah, well there you have it. I can't stand ESPN, and haven't watched their NFL coverage in a few years.
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:13 PM   #43
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Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game?
He'll have to keep waiting cause it sure isn't happening this weekend
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Old 01-12-2012, 03:46 PM   #44
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Alex Smith just finished his 7th season. When did he win his freaking playoff game?

But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:22 PM   #45
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But Smith has had like 6 OCs in his 7 years, and he's been frankly on bad teams. He doesn't have the team around him the Clowns have.
Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:49 PM   #46
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Very true. I guess Ryan just has no excuse. He's weak and a choker.
You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face?

Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow.

Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:00 PM   #47
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On the contrary, I think the talking head should continue to call Matty Melt elite. It makes for a much more satisfying Clown meltdown at the end of the season.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:17 PM   #48
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You can't blame it on the tools he has. Their O line isn't great but has been decent for years. Excellent running game. A HOF TE and a solid #1 WR, and this year Hoolie-Oh and that other guy, whats his face?

Anyway, no excuse. The guy just isn't a top tier QB. His deep ball stats are as bad (maybe worse) than Tebow.

Clayton and his ilk are officially exposed...again...
I look at it this way...

If you put Drew on that same exact team, they win big and damn sure don't choke in the clutch.

That offense is close to being as talented as ours, the difference is talent and leadership at QB.

We got it, they don't.
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