N/S Is Eli elite?

iceshack149 · 01-29-2012, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

I'm just wondering what you guys think of Stafford, honestly ... constructive criticism is fine.

He played all 16 games this past season so he shed his "often injured" tag and I was impressed when he came back to play in that game two season's ago after his shoulder was severely injured.

He threw for over 5000 yards. The future is bright for Lions fans.

UK_WhoDat · 01-29-2012, 12:10 PM

The guy insprires. And he has won. Yep he is in there. ELIte

Jamessr · 01-29-2012, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan

Elite QBs elevate their teammates...I think Eli does that...Idk about rivers

Yeah... not sure why Rivers name ever gets thrown in the mix. I'd compair him to Matt Ryan..... except he doesn't suck as hard

Cory9289 · 01-29-2012, 01:52 PM

Elite is thrown on anyone who puts up good stats. But honestly, the ONLY "elite" QB's to me are:

Brees,
Brady,
Peyton,
Eli

If Rodgers pulls off another year like 2011, then he'll be solid in that category. Until then, he's just a stat monster to me. Same with Rivers (well, used to be I guess)

Jamessr · 01-29-2012, 03:07 PM

To answer the question... Yes Eli is elite.
Only thing that hampers him is his last name.

Rugby Saint II · 01-29-2012, 04:08 PM

He's got a very good blood line and has grown better every year. I'll call him way above average or borderline elite.

Euphoria · 01-29-2012, 04:17 PM

Your name can't come up in the debate unless you win a SB.

Euphoria · 01-29-2012, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

He's got a very good blood line and has grown better every year. I'll call him way above average or borderline elite.

See I think that is why his name comes up most in the argument is because he is right at the borderline.

But really this game is all about SB's and especially for QB's. There will be no debate once he gets his second ring next week.

mikesaintfan · 01-29-2012, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Your name can't come up in the debate unless you win a SB.

so Dan Marino is not elite?

jlouhill · 01-29-2012, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Wow, another 'gem' by Skip Bayless ... how do some of these guys get their jobs?

So, if you define 'elite' by being able to start for any other team, win consistently, build a team around, make the players around him better and/or win a SB, would you put Stafford on the 'elite' list? He meets the criteria, other then the SB. I think he's in the second tier until he wins a SB. I'm just wondering what you guys think of Stafford, honestly ... constructive criticism is fine.

Eli Hall of Fame? Probably ... especially if he wins this SuperBowl, which I think puts him right up there with Brees/Brady/Rodgers/Peyton as best-of-the-best also. He's a 'character' guy.

I think Stafford needs to put in a few more injury free seasons. He showed what he could do when healthy for the whole season and when he has played he has performed well. I think Stafford is going to be mentioned with the others on this list as long as he stays healthy.

01-29-2012, 12:06 PM	#11
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,092 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by SloMotion I'm just wondering what you guys think of Stafford, honestly ... constructive criticism is fine. He played all 16 games this past season so he shed his "often injured" tag and I was impressed when he came back to play in that game two season's ago after his shoulder was severely injured. He threw for over 5000 yards. The future is bright for Lions fans. SloMotion likes this.

01-29-2012, 12:57 PM	#13
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by mikesaintfan Elite QBs elevate their teammates...I think Eli does that...Idk about rivers Yeah... not sure why Rivers name ever gets thrown in the mix. I'd compair him to Matt Ryan..... except he doesn't suck as hard Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-29-2012, 01:52 PM	#14
Cory9289 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 275	Elite is thrown on anyone who puts up good stats. But honestly, the ONLY "elite" QB's to me are: Brees, Brady, Peyton, Eli If Rodgers pulls off another year like 2011, then he'll be solid in that category. Until then, he's just a stat monster to me. Same with Rivers (well, used to be I guess)
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01-29-2012, 04:19 PM	#18
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II He's got a very good blood line and has grown better every year. I'll call him way above average or borderline elite. See I think that is why his name comes up most in the argument is because he is right at the borderline. But really this game is all about SB's and especially for QB's. There will be no debate once he gets his second ring next week.

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mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Originally Posted by Euphoria Your name can't come up in the debate unless you win a SB. so Dan Marino is not elite?

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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,825	The guy insprires. And he has won. Yep he is in there. ELIte

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	To answer the question... Yes Eli is elite. Only thing that hampers him is his last name.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,739	He's got a very good blood line and has grown better every year. I'll call him way above average or borderline elite.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Your name can't come up in the debate unless you win a SB.

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jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 676	Originally Posted by SloMotion Wow, another 'gem' by Skip Bayless ... how do some of these guys get their jobs? So, if you define 'elite' by being able to start for any other team, win consistently, build a team around, make the players around him better and/or win a SB, would you put Stafford on the 'elite' list? He meets the criteria, other then the SB. I think he's in the second tier until he wins a SB. I'm just wondering what you guys think of Stafford, honestly ... constructive criticism is fine. Eli Hall of Fame? Probably ... especially if he wins this SuperBowl, which I think puts him right up there with Brees/Brady/Rodgers/Peyton as best-of-the-best also. He's a 'character' guy. I think Stafford needs to put in a few more injury free seasons. He showed what he could do when healthy for the whole season and when he has played he has performed well. I think Stafford is going to be mentioned with the others on this list as long as he stays healthy. SloMotion likes this.