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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by biloxi-indian During the first three years of the deal, the base salaries are fully guaranteed. That includes $700,000 in 2012, $1.1 million in 2013 and $1 million in 2014. He's also due roster bonuses of $5 million ...

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Old 03-30-2012, 10:35 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian View Post

During the first three years of the deal, the base salaries are fully guaranteed. That includes $700,000 in 2012, $1.1 million in 2013 and $1 million in 2014.

He's also due roster bonuses of $5 million in 2013, $2.2 million in 2014 and $4.5 million in 2015.

He's also due base salaries of $2.4 million in 2015, $5.4 million in 2015 and $6 million in 2016, which is a voidable year under the terms of the contract.

Only a $1.7M cap figure for 2012.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:38 AM   #12
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where's that falcon troll who was certain we overpaid for Lofton?
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:41 PM   #13
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where's that falcon troll who was certain we overpaid for Lofton?

Well, I had a quick look-see on their boards and majority of them are saying that the price the Saints payed for Lofton's services was more than they would've thought that it was worth.

It's strange that they also seem to think that Tatupu was the Saints' #1 choice for a MLB, but that they were able to get him signed before the Saints were. That scenario doesn't seem that realistic because there was quite a bit of time between him visiting the Saints and then the Failclowns having him over and signing him. I would think that if the Saints really wanted him, they would've gotten him to sign a contract within that timespan between the two visits.

The funny thing is that they keep referring to Lofton's knees becoming an issue, but they were happy to sign Tatupu who missed an entire season because of his knees.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:42 PM   #14
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The funny thing is that they keep referring to Lofton's knees becoming an issue, but they were happy to sign Tatupu who missed an entire season because of his knees.
Lofton has only missed 1 game in his 4 years...
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Old 03-30-2012, 06:57 PM   #15
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Lofton has only missed 1 game in his 4 years...

Yeah, that's what is so crazy about it.

He didn't miss any time after his knee surgeries last off-season, and to my knowledge he doesn't have any underlying conditions which could hurt his chances of staying healthy in the future - like Vilma has.
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Just look at it this way; the Falcons tried to resign him so it's not like they didn't want him.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:17 AM   #17
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Great deal. If he turns out to not fit the system, we can cut ties and there wouldn't be a big cap hit.
That's how it should be; if you're working, producing - you get paid...

If not, minimal damage to the rest of the team...

That's what I hate about Baseball; paying a pitcher 12 million while he's out a year with Tommy John Sx is incredible...
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:25 PM   #18
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I just want to know the number on his back not his paycheck.
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:56 PM   #19
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I just want to know the number on his back not his paycheck.
If you're truly curious I believe Lofton said that he will be #50.
If you're being facetious, I believe Lofton said that he will be #50.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:31 PM   #20
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and don't forget the cap goes up to 140.6 million next year I believe...
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The past three weeks have entailed plenty of talk about the salary cap as calculated in the new CBA, and whether and to what extent those numbers will spike when the new TV contracts kick in.

The NFLPA reportedly has told players it will. Patriots owner Robert Kraft has said that it wont.

Now, Texans owner Bob McNair, who chairs the leagues finance committee, agrees with Kraft.

It is staying pretty flat for several years, McNair told Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal while departing last weeks league meetings. McNair added that, after 2014, the cap will gradually increase.

Kaplans report also confirms that the union borrowed against future years in order to pump the cap in 2012 from as low as $113 million per team to $120.6 million per team, not much more than the $120.375 million per team in 2011. The same thing will happen in 2013, which means that gains to be realized in 2014 and beyond will have already been, to a certain extent, consumed by the players in order to drive up the numbers in 2012 and 2013.

The end result, per Kaplan, will be a total of $142.4 million per team in salary and benefits for each of the first three years of the new CBA, with modest annual increases thereafter.

Kaplan points out that, last March, the players walked away from a proposal that would have guaranteed $146 million per team in 2012, $150 million per team in 2013, and $161 million per team in 2014. (Actually, the document created by the owners in March 2011, a copy of which PFT has obtained, showed a minimum of $148 million in 2012 and $155 million in 2013.) NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith called that offer the worst deal in the history of sports, in part because of the gross reduction in the players take and in part because the formula included no portion of the leagues financial upside.

So, instead, the players eventually traded a proposal with a high floor and a low ceiling for a deal with a low floor and a high ceiling. And for now the numbers are congregating at the floor.

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