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Old 04-19-2012, 10:15 AM   #1
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Jared Allen: Bounties not the cause of loss to Saints

For all you Jared Allen haters


Barring any fan's close association with an NFC North rival, it's easy to feel sorry for the Minnesota Vikings.

Think about Dennis Green on NFL Network's excellent "The Missing Rings" series, solemnly staring at his hand and wondering how he let Chris Chandler deny him the only jewelry he ever wanted.

How about the mess going on right now in St. Paul, a stadium standoff that could have permanent consequences for fans in Minnesota?

More misery can be mined via the New Orleans Saints' "bounty" program. After all, it was the Vikings and Brett Favre who were unmercifully targeted by Gregg Williams and his charges in the 2009 NFC Championship Game. Favre was pounded, including a nasty high-low hit that became one of the signature plays of the subsequent scandal.

A Vikings fan can argue -- and surely many have -- that Favre's injuries played a central role in keeping the team out of the Super Bowl. Minnesota defensive end Jared Allen isn't buying it, however.

"Yeah, that high-low was pretty vicious, but here's the deal," Allen told KTAR-AM in Phoenix (via SportsRadioInterviews.com). "I think what people get caught up in -- and obviously the Saints were wrong in what they did and they're being punished accordingly -- but the way I look at it, you can't cry over spilled milk. They won the game, we had our shots and we blew it. But their 'bounty'-gate had nothing to do with our five turnovers."

Allen remembers game officials missing clear unnecessary-roughness calls, including the infamous high-low hit by Bobby McCray and Remi Ayodele.

"But I think, you look at those hits on Favre, and you look at that stuff -- all you've got to do is throw a flag," Allen said. "You can hit a guy like -- they didn't put him out of the game, he stayed and finished the game. If the refs called those flags, after about two or three personal fouls and 30, 45 yards of field position, those tend to slow down."

The punishments being doled out by the NFL surely will slow down the dirty play now, but it won't help the 2009 Vikings.

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Old 04-19-2012, 10:22 AM   #2
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Who would have thought the lone voice of reason would come from Jared Allen?
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Only reason I have any dislike for Allen is he doesn't play for us, he's a great DE. If we could only be so lucky.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:23 AM   #4
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That is rich coming from Jared Allen.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:46 AM   #5
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Only reason I have any dislike for Allen is he doesn't play for us, he's a great DE. If we could only be so lucky.
Apparently you haven't heard what he said about New Orleans!

I donít like going to Detroit,Ē Allen said, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune. ďIíll be honest. Itís gloomy, it sucks. Everything is brown and then there is snow on the ground. Thereís like brownstones everywhere and Iím like, ĎAwesome.í I donít know, I couldnít do it. If I had to live in Detroit, I think Iíd just drown myself in the river that was across the way.

ďIím not trying to be mean but itís just depressing when I go there. Thereís two cities like I donít go out to eat or donít do anything. Itís Detroit and New Orleans. New Orleans looks like Iím driving through a third-world country. Every time I get off the plane, Iím like, ĎOh, flak jacket.í Iím trying to get down. Iím like, ĎAh, crap, I canít carry my gun here. This sucks.í"

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Apparently you haven't heard what he said about New Orleans!

I donít like going to Detroit,Ē Allen said, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune. ďIíll be honest. Itís gloomy, it sucks. Everything is brown and then there is snow on the ground. Thereís like brownstones everywhere and Iím like, ĎAwesome.í I donít know, I couldnít do it. If I had to live in Detroit, I think Iíd just drown myself in the river that was across the way.

ďIím not trying to be mean but itís just depressing when I go there. Thereís two cities like I donít go out to eat or donít do anything. Itís Detroit and New Orleans. New Orleans looks like Iím driving through a third-world country. Every time I get off the plane, Iím like, ĎOh, flak jacket.í Iím trying to get down. Iím like, ĎAh, crap, I canít carry my gun here. This sucks.í"

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He does have a big mouth!!
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very astute observation on his part
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I'll take that mullet sportin moron as my DE any day, all day long.
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I have to say, I'm not getting where this is supposed to sound any different from what any Vikings player has been saying all along.

He's right that bounties weren't the reason they lost, but he's still suggesting there WERE bounties placed on Favre, and that the high-low hit was "vicious". We never did anything illegal in that game. It wasn't just that they failed to throw a flag. There was nothing to throw a flag about. Two guys were pursuing a quarterback at the same time and he got rid of the ball late, resulting in getting hit by both said players...Hmmm... I don't know about anyone else, but that sounds like a pretty normal football play.

So basically, he said he doesn't want to cry over spilled milk, but he cried over spilled milk anyway.
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If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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This was nothing more than a politically correct way of saying "we got robbed", so he can feel like he's a bigger man. You can say it in as many ways as you want, Jared, but the message is still the same. You have not, and will not ever get over being beat by a better team that day.

Here's a new cup of milk. Drink it this time.
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