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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by blackangold The players may not see their suspensions this year. They may know the time they must serve soon but much like the star-caps situation this could find itself in court because the NFLPA has balls. In ...

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Old 05-01-2012, 12:33 PM   #11
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The players may not see their suspensions this year. They may know the time they must serve soon but much like the star-caps situation this could find itself in court because the NFLPA has balls. In my opinion Sean and Mickey should be doing the same thing.
The star caps incident, The NFL violated state laws, that was the main issue that held it up in the courts. If the NFL hands out suspensions the players would need that kind of power to trump the NFL otherwise, they don't have a leg to stand on. What state or federal violations would the NFL be guilty of in this case...I don't know, I'm no lawyer but I'm sure the lawyers of the players will do their best to find one.
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:42 PM   #12
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Regardless what happens, Roger is a true ******* for delaying it for so long.
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:42 PM   #13
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For a guy who talks a big game about having definitive proof to his "findings" he sure is taking his time. His actions aren't that of someone who is confident he knows the whole truth. I definitely think the players union gave him a dose of reality a few weeks ago when they met and now he realizes the players aren't going to go down without a fight.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:44 PM   #14
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Seems to me that it's been delayed because Goodell doesn't have anything on the players other than some "unnamed source" saying that Vilma offered up that $10k. Guarantee you Goodell took hearsay like that and ran with it and now he's kinda screwed.
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Seems like the longer he goes, the less likely he will suspend a large number. He would essentially cut the Saints Defensive hamstrings in one blow right before training camp.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:56 PM   #16
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The NFLPA not seeing any meaningful evidence has to handcuff Roger a little bit. If he tries to go too harsh, I see the players union bringing him a severe legal fight...
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:24 PM   #17
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Don't the union still appeal to Goodell, or do they go outside of him?
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:56 PM   #18
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thats why i'm hoping enough is enough to this org. is it not enough we won't have a coach? is it not enough the stand in is only there for 8 games and the last the g.m. gone for 8 when is enough. gavel down. BANG
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The star caps incident, The NFL violated state laws, that was the main issue that held it up in the courts. If the NFL hands out suspensions the players would need that kind of power to trump the NFL otherwise, they don't have a leg to stand on. What state or federal violations would the NFL be guilty of in this case...I don't know, I'm no lawyer but I'm sure the lawyers of the players will do their best to find one.
They (NFL) are not guilty of breaking laws, however they would be violating existing contracts which garner pay for other individuals, and essentially they are a third party violating a agreed upon contract between two other entities. There may be stipulations or wordage that incorporates the occurrence of suspensions by a third party (NFL) but we are not privileged to that information. Thus virtually any suspension handed out by the NFL can be disputed in a civil court or go to arbitration to determine the vitality of suspending (taking money) said individuals (players OR coaches).
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
They (NFL) are not guilty of breaking laws, however they would be violating existing contracts which garner pay for other individuals, and essentially they are a third party violating a agreed upon contract between two other entities. There may be stipulations or wordage that incorporates the occurrence of suspensions by a third party (NFL) but we are not privileged to that information. Thus virtually any suspension handed out by the NFL can be disputed in a civil court or go to arbitration to determine the vitality of suspending (taking money) said individuals (players OR coaches).
What he said!! I'm with Saintfan..I want this to get nasty!!
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