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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; After all PT has done for us. No way. Never. Send Ivory or Cadet, but don't give up our play makers....

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Old 08-30-2012, 02:10 AM   #31
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Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?

After all PT has done for us. No way. Never. Send Ivory or Cadet, but don't give up our play makers.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:19 AM   #32
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Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?

No. We need every back we have. We have a history of injury at that position and cannot afford to lose anyone. Each back offers a different skill set and used together on the field really helps our passing game. This is why I think we keep both Cadet and Ivory but there you deal with injury and a question mark, and hell we don't even know what we have in Ingram yet, to early to tell. We definitely need to hold onto PT. I wouldn't even trade for a 1st round pick. Especially the way we draft in the first. When Pierre went out against SF we all got to see how important he is to our offense.
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Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?

Originally Posted by FinSaint View Post
The Vikes seem have improved their backfield quite a lot based on the preseason games, but, on the other hand, their run defense have left a lot to be desired for, so I do think the Lions should at least try to have some type of an effective run offense if they plan on winning the NFC North.
... I agree and you would think they have to look no further then the Saints to see what an effective running game combined with an outstanding passing attack can do for you, but they seem to have missed on the second half of the "Pass to Score, Run to Win" philosophy. I've seen plenty of interviews with the H/C & GM, where while they openly admit they're attempting to follow the Patriots/Saints template, they just feel they're primarily going to pass and the running game is mainly there as a distraction and the occassional third-and-short situation ... it's short-sighted and a strategy I totally disagree with and always point to the Saints offense as an example of what I think the Lions offense potentially could, or should, be. All's I can think is that after years of having Barry Sanders and not winning a thing, they've decided to move in a different direction ... but all that was mismanagement, not Barry's fault, the Lions need a back like PT and need to stop shopping at the Bargain Basement for their RB's ... alright, enough Lions' Insider information, I still think we're gonna' see a Saints/Lions NFC Championship here in a season or two and can't reveal all their weaknesses, .

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If they dangle Suh... It would make us think a little... Don't you think?
... Suh is next in line to be 'franchised' by the team, so there won't be too much dangling going on, plus, they're pretty high on the kid ... personally, if it was me, I'd do that trade, or something similiar, maybe sprinkle in some draft picks either way, yada, yada, yada ... I'm telling you guys, don't get sold on the hype, Suh is overrated ... Fairley is the guy you'd want in a trade for a defensive down lineman ... he's gonna' be bigger then Suh, mark my words.

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I'd do it for a 3rd rounder.
... in a heartbeat, Crusader, in a heartbeat ... besides, New Orleans would actually find a true NFL'er with that pick, whereas Detroit has a hard time spotting those 'diamonds-in-the-rough' that are still left that late in the draft.

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Old 08-30-2012, 08:09 AM   #34
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Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?

Let me ask this. Would we trade PT for the kommisar's immediate dismissal and Sean being back on the sidelines? Totally hypothetical of course.
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Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: Could we trade Pierre to the Lions?

if anyone has to go let it be ingram. thomas has the second highest yards per attempt average on the team at 4.8. he also catches well out of the backfield. and we know he is a danger to break one at any moment. although ivory used mostly for the hard to gain yards actually has the highest yards per attempt at 5.0. on any other team ivory is 1000+ yard rusher. i dont want to lose him, but i think when his contract comes due we lose him anyway to someone who will pay him much more money and give him a bigger role in the offense. cadet show some promise and we know we struck gold with sproles. but ingram, doesnt really fit and he wasnt shy about saying he wasnt thrilled with his role in our offense. he feels that he could and should be an every down back, and i agree. so let him go somewhere else and do it. then maybe we can give ivory more money and keep him as well as thomas who i think comes due at the end of this year.
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I wouldn't consider trading Ingram yet.
Injuries hurt him last year.I still have hope he can step up when needed.
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I wouldn't trade PT. But if I had to, it would be for a 1st and a 3rd in 2013 and a conditional pick in 2014.
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if anyone has to go let it be ingram. thomas has the second highest yards per attempt average on the team at 4.8. he also catches well out of the backfield. and we know he is a danger to break one at any moment. although ivory used mostly for the hard to gain yards actually has the highest yards per attempt at 5.0. on any other team ivory is 1000+ yard rusher.
He'd never last enugh games to become a 1,000 yard rusher, and fumbles would probably land him on the bench.


but ingram, doesnt really fit and he wasnt shy about saying he wasnt thrilled with his role in our offense. he feels that he could and should be an every down back, and i agree. so let him go somewhere else and do it. then maybe we can give ivory more money and keep him as well as thomas who i think comes due at the end of this year.
Doesn't fit? I disagree completely. If I had to pick a RB that doesn't fit this offense, Ivory would top that list.

Ingram never said he wasn't thrilled with his role, he said he thinks he can be an everydown RB in this league, meaning running, short yardage, receiving and 3rd down. And Ingram isn't making much money at all.

PT is signed thru 2014.
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