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Joker 09-16-2012 09:08 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
1 game in how many years, so did that game save his job (NO) why because he sucks
You say he was the head coach not the D coord at the rams so he's not responsible for the DEfense, but we often refer to Payton as head coach and off coord. Bottom line the guy sucks unless you give him all pro players to work with and the Saints definitely don't have but maybe 1

If you haven't realize this yet, it's what have you'd one for me lately not 5 years ago. That's just life

LBCutta 09-16-2012 09:14 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel..

1) Will Smith - Why the **** is he even still on the team
2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap
3) Scott Shanle - Why the **** is he even still on the team
4)Corey White - The new Jason David
5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage
6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner
7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull****

Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran.

Joker 09-16-2012 09:17 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LBCutta (Post 439448)
I don't believe it is completely coaching...it's personnel..

1) Will Smith - Why the **** is he even still on the team
2) Sedrick Ellis - never turned out to be crap
3) Scott Shanle - Why the **** is he even still on the team
4)Corey White - The new Jason David
5)Roman HArper - slow, and only good for an extra man in the box. Terrible in coverage
6) Malcolm Jenkins - garbage safety. Maybe he would have been alright if we kept him at corner
7)Vilma - a has been that is only distracting the entire team right now with his bounty bull****

Our defense sucks. That should be the focal point next year. We need headhunters out that. People that can tackle and have good football IQ. Even though this is a offensive league right now, defense still wins games. Case in point : San Fran.

I agree with you 100 %, but at some point you have to adjust to your personnel and IMO this guy can't. We may not have given Greg Williams enough credit for what he did with the same players albeit not great but decent.

You think LSU would let us use their defense on Sundays?

|Mitch| 09-16-2012 09:20 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
So I ask you Joker, Could you do better as DC?! :rolleyes:

DrewDat 09-16-2012 09:21 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
I Would Agree If Ed Reed Lost A Lot Of One On One Battles With Receivers....Whenever A Pass Is Thrown And Ed Reed Is There I Think "Thats Picked Off"....Whenever Its Between Harper And A Receiver I Yell Out Loud "Please No Pass Interference!!!"....

Joker 09-16-2012 09:23 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
Probably not but I never claimed to be a defensive coordinator, Spud applied and got the job so who do you think is to be held accountable to what we saw today and last week.

Oh I know let's blame Mr. Goodhell, it's easy

|Mitch| 09-16-2012 09:25 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 439458)
Probably not but I never claimed to be a defensive coordinator, Spud applied and got the job so who do you think is to be held accountable to what we saw today and last week

geez; It's been two games! Let them get comfortable and learn all the nuances of the defense... There's an old saying " Rome wasn't built in a day". Same with a new defense, you're not gonna make a top 10 D in a couple of games...

DrewDat 09-16-2012 09:29 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 439453)
I agree with you 100 %, but at some point you have to adjust to your personnel and IMO this guy can't. We may not have given Greg Williams enough credit for what he did with the same players albeit not great but decent.

You think LSU would let us use their defense on Sundays?




LOL!!!!! Corey White Is Very Comparable To Jason David!!!

Jamessr 09-16-2012 09:29 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
We dont need a top 10 defense. We need an average defense that can hold teams to 20 points or less. The offense can still score even with issues they're having. Just goes to show how bad the defense is.

Joker 09-16-2012 09:30 PM

Re: Our Defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 439460)
geez; It's been two games! Let them get comfortable and learn all the nuances of the defense... There's an old saying " Rome wasn't built in a day". Same with a new defense, you're not gonna make a top 10 D in a couple of games...

At this point I would settle for a top 25, I would love this to turn around and get better in the next few weeks but I don't see it happening. If I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it, but the following has to get better

1 Pass Rush
2 linebacker play
3 coverage by corners & safeties

Basically the whole defense


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