What happened to Carl Nicks?

jeanpierre · 10-23-2012, 06:29 AM

Carl should buy a Golden Corral franchise...

...with all that extra Lollipop and Rainbows Money, he could offset his losses when Cousins Sed, Will, Cam and his Uncles Sully and Chuck come in to eat each and every day and talk about their potential...

SaintsBro · 10-23-2012, 10:30 AM

They were obviously trying to shove Nicks in our faces by runnning the ball so darn much on that goal line stand, the same way that San Diego tried to shove Meachem in our faces with trying to force throw him TD's. Didn't work this time, thanks for the "W" Carl, we'll take it.

st thomas · 10-23-2012, 10:41 AM

nicks cares less about the game, in it for the cash. i'll say this he won't have a 13 year career, when his pockets are full enough hes out.

Marlboro Man · 10-23-2012, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

You know, the Brees protecting, ground game-hole creating monster!?

He couldn't/didn't help the Bucs get 1.5 yds for a TD!

Either the Saints defense isn't that bad, or Nicks isn't that good!

I think it is the later!

I agree. When Nicks was here we hardly ever ran behind him. We mostly run behind Evans and screen to Nicks side. I never thought of him as a great run blocker.

lumm0x · 10-23-2012, 11:13 AM

He was a very good guard for us and still will be, but as stated, Brees makes even bad o-linemen look decent and good ones great. Not a huge down grade in my opinion with Grubbs. We do need to upgrade the OT's though. They are weak.

D_it_up · 10-23-2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

We do need to upgrade the OT's though. They are weak.

Think of how good Drew would be if he had two above average OT's that gave him even more time. Blows my mind.

Rugby Saint II · 10-23-2012, 04:23 PM

Why is center a position of need? Did we give upon de la Puenta? Nicks may have made him look better or feel more comfortable. I know the pocket is getting pushed back but I didn't know that Grubbs graded out that well.

blackangold · 10-23-2012, 09:09 PM

I just want to know if you guys saw Hicks vs Nicks...

Hicks killed him. I have re-watched the game twice and when Hicks was in there he dominated the line and dominated Nicks. I thought Hicks was going to be good at some point but the guy is awesome now and needs to be the starter.

pherein · 10-23-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Thank you. This is why I've been saying for years that our line is over rated. Somehow, we managed to run the ball well last year and in 09', but we've really struggled to open holes the rest of the time. And the pass blocking is really weak, particularly at tackle. Brees' release time has unquestionably made his lineman look much better than they are.

We have good guards, but center and tackle have to get better. Getting Grubbs instead of giving in to Nicks' ridiculous demands was a very good move, indeed.

Yes Brees is really killing himself out there to, and I think their is a case to blame the OL this year for a lot of the 3 and outs, and the run game problems.
I have never seen the OL rate less that #5 sense 2006 and its true that Brees has a lot to do with that, but we are #20 at the run and #10 at pass protection.
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and that is completely unacceptable to drop so low so fast. I mean its easy to see why GB is struggling to at #28.
If we cant change the defense, and have to live with it, then we better damn sight fix the OL problems or we are going no where.

10-23-2012, 06:29 AM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? Carl should buy a Golden Corral franchise... ...with all that extra Lollipop and Rainbows Money, he could offset his losses when Cousins Sed, Will, Cam and his Uncles Sully and Chuck come in to eat each and every day and talk about their potential...

10-23-2012, 10:30 AM	#12
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? They were obviously trying to shove Nicks in our faces by runnning the ball so darn much on that goal line stand, the same way that San Diego tried to shove Meachem in our faces with trying to force throw him TD's. Didn't work this time, thanks for the "W" Carl, we'll take it. spkb25 likes this.

10-23-2012, 10:41 AM	#13
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? nicks cares less about the game, in it for the cash. i'll say this he won't have a 13 year career, when his pockets are full enough hes out.

10-23-2012, 10:45 AM	#14
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 You know, the Brees protecting, ground game-hole creating monster!? He couldn't/didn't help the Bucs get 1.5 yds for a TD! Either the Saints defense isn't that bad, or Nicks isn't that good! I think it is the later! I agree. When Nicks was here we hardly ever ran behind him. We mostly run behind Evans and screen to Nicks side. I never thought of him as a great run blocker.

10-23-2012, 11:13 AM	#15
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? He was a very good guard for us and still will be, but as stated, Brees makes even bad o-linemen look decent and good ones great. Not a huge down grade in my opinion with Grubbs. We do need to upgrade the OT's though. They are weak. Halo and spkb25 like this.

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10-23-2012, 01:32 PM	#16
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? Originally Posted by lumm0x We do need to upgrade the OT's though. They are weak. Think of how good Drew would be if he had two above average OT's that gave him even more time. Blows my mind.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,733	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? Why is center a position of need? Did we give upon de la Puenta? Nicks may have made him look better or feel more comfortable. I know the pocket is getting pushed back but I didn't know that Grubbs graded out that well.

10-23-2012, 09:09 PM	#18
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? I just want to know if you guys saw Hicks vs Nicks... Hicks killed him. I have re-watched the game twice and when Hicks was in there he dominated the line and dominated Nicks. I thought Hicks was going to be good at some point but the guy is awesome now and needs to be the starter.

10-23-2012, 09:41 PM	#19
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What happened to Carl Nicks? Originally Posted by burningmetal Thank you. This is why I've been saying for years that our line is over rated. Somehow, we managed to run the ball well last year and in 09', but we've really struggled to open holes the rest of the time. And the pass blocking is really weak, particularly at tackle. Brees' release time has unquestionably made his lineman look much better than they are. We have good guards, but center and tackle have to get better. Getting Grubbs instead of giving in to Nicks' ridiculous demands was a very good move, indeed. Yes Brees is really killing himself out there to, and I think their is a case to blame the OL this year for a lot of the 3 and outs, and the run game problems. I have never seen the OL rate less that #5 sense 2006 and its true that Brees has a lot to do with that, but we are #20 at the run and #10 at pass protection. FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis \| 2012 OFFENSIVE LINES and that is completely unacceptable to drop so low so fast. I mean its easy to see why GB is struggling to at #28. If we cant change the defense, and have to live with it, then we better damn sight fix the OL problems or we are going no where.
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