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FinSaint 10-30-2012 08:37 PM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 453338)
Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries?

Colston fumbles.
Moore is constantly injured.
Graham is constantly injured.
P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured.
Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory.

Alaska


Colston does make the occasional fumble, but I think that side of his game has been overly emphasized and flat out over-exaggerated.

Marquis Colston

2006: 115 catches, 0 fumbles
2007: 144 catches, 1 fumble
2008: 88 catches, 1 fumble
2009: 107 catches, 2 fumbles
2010: 132 catches, 0 fumbles
2011: 107 catches, 1 fumble
2012: 70 catches, 1 fumble [week 8]

So, that is an average of a fumble per 127 catches. I can certainly live with that percentage, and based on that alone I find it hard to support the statement that he has a problem with fumbles.

saintsfan1976 10-30-2012 09:16 PM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 453338)
Ivory's contribution this year is still a QUESTION MARK. He's the only player on the team with a 5.0 lifetime YPC who has not contributed this year and all we can do is continue to talk about is fumbles and injuries?

Colston fumbles.
Moore is constantly injured.
Graham is constantly injured.
P.T. was the last of our RB's to be injured.
Hell, even that CHUMP Hartley has been injured since Ivory.

Alaska

"Lifetime"? You mean the two partial seasons he's played in, right?

The difference between Ivory and the ones you named is that the others actually produce - CONSISTENLY

AlaskaSaints 10-30-2012 10:38 PM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
The backup running back averages 5.0 and he can't get in the game. You don't find that ridiculous?

Do you think I don't know how many seasons Ivory has been with the Saints or that he has been injured in both seasons? REALLY?

So with the same sarcastic, caustic demeanor that you guys address Ivory I'll say that if P.T. weren't so fragile we may have won in San Francisco and may have gone to the Super Bowl. LOL And he coughed up the ball when the lights went out as well. That covers both points that you bring about Ivory... IN ONE PLAY. LOL

I love P.T. and his contribution, regardless of whether he's having a good day, and I would NOT trade P.T. for Ivory under any circumstance.

I'm not rooting for Ivory to take over the backfield, just get the man in the game. He deserves that for what he has done for us in the last TWO years that he has been with the Saints... injured.

Alaska

lumm0x 10-30-2012 10:47 PM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
Not a chance for me. We've been down the lack of RB depth road before. Unless we get some offer that actually gives us a benefit then why even bother. I wouldn't move him for less than a 5th and I don't think we'll get that.

frydaddy 10-30-2012 10:53 PM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
NONE of the rb's have performed consistently this year. Unless you count consistently mediocre, that dubious distinction certainly fits ingram. I think ivory deserves a chance. Playing him won't do anything in terms of fixing the wet paper towel that is more commonly referred to as our defense, but he just might bring a little fire and life to the running game... And that's about the best we can hope for this year anyway, seeing some good individual effort on SOMEONE'S part.

jeanpierre 10-31-2012 12:08 AM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
3 Rd Pick-4th Rd Pick, anything less, take the keys away from Loomis until after the draft...

Utah_Saint 10-31-2012 12:57 AM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
I hope they don't trade him for a 7th rounder. I don't think it would be worth it.

I do hope they give him a chance. I think it's time to change things up. What could it hurt? Are they worried about risking that .248 winning percentage?

MatthewT 10-31-2012 01:07 AM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
With Ivory, it really depends on what the Saints plans are for him. His contract is up after this season, but is only going to be a restricted free agent in 2013. Because of the lack of opportunity, I seriously doubt Ivory wants to remain with the Saints. If the Saints have some master plan on using him, then get him some touches and keep him around. To me, I don't see that happening, so move him if you can and get a draft pick for next year. I mean seriously, already 7 games are over and not a single touch? To me that doesn't sound like he is in the plans, just being kept as an insurance policy. Move him for a draft pick if possible is my official take.

SaintsBro 10-31-2012 08:25 AM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
Guys, it's not HOW MANY fumbles Ivory has that put him in the coaches' doghouse, it's WHEN, WHERE and HOW he fumbles.

FinSaint 10-31-2012 09:09 AM

Re: Ivory for a 7th rounder?
 
Well, they do have 5 RBs at the moment, so I guess they could get rid of one of them and still have good depth at the position.


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