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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Vilma I'm happy about, Smith needed to go so the new young talent can start to take place....

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Old 02-18-2013, 09:15 AM   #11
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

Vilma I'm happy about,
Smith needed to go so the new young talent can start to take place.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:41 AM   #12
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

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We aren't giving them a huge raise, we're asking them to restructure, which I hope and assume includes a reduction in yearly salary.

When we sign or draft someone better, I'm all for releasing them.
Well usually when you hear "restructure", that means change the way they will get there current contract money. No way in the world is Smith worth his contract.

Now if it would have said they will be asked to take a "reduction", that would be better. The contract would still be re-dun and could have still been structured to give the majority in bonus.
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

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Well usually when you hear "restructure", that means change the way they will get there current contract money. No way in the world is Smith worth his contract.

Now if it would have said they will be asked to take a "reduction", that would be better. The contract would still be re-dun and could have still been structured to give the majority in bonus.
Very true. Smith only has 2 years left on his contract and the cap hit is nearly the same for each year so I don't see how restructuring helps us at all. It has to be a renegotiation or extension at a reduced price.

His 2013 cap hit is 14.5 million.
His 2014 cap hit is 13.9 million.
He's an UFA in 2015.

Simply restructuring doesn't help us at all. I suspect its an extension at a lower rate.

Vima is in the last year of his contract so a simple restructuring doesn't help anyone anywhere anyhow.
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

With these guys, I can't help but read this as a "reducture".
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

I'm ok with Vilma. But Smith? Really? I don't mind either sticking around but the price has to be good. Smith isn't worth half of what he's due in 2013.
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

What I gathered from this limited information was that the restructure would be more about a pay-cut with possibly adding an additional year or two to the present contracts. So the players would get a nice bonus immediately while understanding that they would never play those last years in reality, but then again, the parties might not even agree on the restructure and end up going separate ways.
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I will be soo upset if Smith is still here. His roster spot needs to be taken by an up and coming talent.
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

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With these guys, I can't help but read this as a "reducture".
Excellent!
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

You can restructure and at least get some production and veteran experience for about the same cap number if you outright release them.
Works for me if they restructure, we can definitely do worst without them, doing better is unknown at this time.
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Re: Saints to ask Vilma and Smith to restructure

The only justification I can accept for cutting a player without his replacement in mind is if the front office is sure they can replace that player with a better player for the same amount.

Otherwise, keep 'em till someone beats them out.

You don't get better by cutting your most talented players. You get better by signing/drafting better ones.
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