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papz 04-11-2013 10:08 PM

Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
Free agent DT Sedrick Ellis says he has been in contact with the Saints about re-signing.

Ellis, the No. 7 overall pick in the 2008 draft, has drawn zero known interest since free agency opened, but says he's spoke with multiple clubs. Billed as a solid pass rusher coming out of USC, Ellis has just 0.5 sacks over his last 31 games. He shouldn't get much more than the minimum.

Source: Alex Marvez on Twitter

Seer1 04-11-2013 10:12 PM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
yay

NOT!

Luda34 04-12-2013 12:28 AM

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Lets move on please

FinSaint 04-12-2013 02:33 AM

Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints
 
Maybe vet minimum if he could play the NT position - which I don't know if he can - he's about the same size as Bunkley, so maybe he could provide some depth at that position at least for the camp.

Not excited about him returning, but I do see some logic in the possibility under the right circumstances.

dizzle88 04-12-2013 04:08 AM

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Nooooooooooo

lee909 04-12-2013 04:22 AM

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alleycat_126 04-12-2013 06:07 AM

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NO Way, go somewhere else..... Please

canucksaint 04-12-2013 06:57 AM

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I don't get all the negativity about this possible signing? Sure, Ellis was a bust when you look at his production compared to his salary or where he was drafted, but was he not a "serviceable" DT? If he's coming in for the vet minimum, I don't see the harm, nor do I see another DT out there who would be better. If he's just a camp body, then so be it. No harm, no foul.

saintsfan1976 04-12-2013 07:20 AM

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I'll take the 2010 Sedrick Ellis any day. Especially at the league min.

Since his knee and ankle problems in 09, he's started almost every single game. The guy is durable.

At 6'1" 308, can he bulk up and rotate in as NT or trim down and play some DE??

burningmetal 04-12-2013 07:30 AM

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I haven't been so excited since the last time I blinked! Oop, I just blinked again. And just like that, I'm over it.

saintsfan1976 04-12-2013 07:41 AM

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Many expect the same level of production from top picks as they had in college. That's rarely the case.

Ellis is not starter caliber in the NFL. But at the league min, he's more than valuable as a back up / role player.

2010 he was solid. Since then, rarely injured. He'll be 28 going into the season. Money makes sense, let's get him in camp and see what he's got left to prove.

burningmetal 04-12-2013 08:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 493613)
Many expect the same level of production from top picks as they had in college. That's rarely the case.

Ellis is not starter caliber in the NFL. But at the league min, he's more than valuable as a back up / role player.

2010 he was solid. Since then, rarely injured. He'll be 28 going into the season. Money makes sense, let's get him in camp and see what he's got left to prove.

You're right, it is rarely the case. Even so, that is what you pick a guy 7th overall to do. He came no where close. I'm not really high on him as depth, either. We have had an atrocious run defense for as long as I can remember. He's been starting for 4 of those years. To my knowledge, he's never played in a 3-4.

I thought it was a foregone conclusion that he would not be back in any capacity. I guess it doesn't matter, though. I don't see him making the team.

Danno 04-12-2013 08:50 AM

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Ellis at big money? Hell No!

Ellis at vet minumum? Hell Yes!

He'd probably be just fine as part of a 3 man DT rotation.

papz 04-12-2013 09:22 AM

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I wouldn't mind seeing him eat space at DE either. He'd make a versatile backup. There's really nothing to lose with these types of moves we've done lately. Leonhard, Smith, and possibly Ellis... if we can make them relevant again at the league minimum, it's a winner. If not, chop them, move on, and act like it never happened.

hagan714 04-12-2013 09:32 AM

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i think at the right price it is cool

i still say he held his ground better than Bunk last year

TheEnigma 04-12-2013 10:05 AM

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:furious::no::burn:

Papa Voodoo 04-12-2013 01:00 PM

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He has zero ferocity. No thanks.

Rugby Saint II 04-12-2013 01:07 PM

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My first instinct is NO!
I think I'll stick with my instincts. :smile:

st thomas 04-12-2013 01:09 PM

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Maybe if he finds his heart.

Danno 04-12-2013 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 493716)
Maybe if he finds his heart.

Why would you think its an issue of the heart? I've never heard anyone say his heart is the problem.

jnormand 04-12-2013 01:44 PM

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I'm not against signing him to vet minimum but let's get real here. The only reason he has been in "talks" with the Saints is because no one else wants him. That's what we in the investigatory business call a "clue".

Papa Voodoo 04-12-2013 02:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493719)
Why would you think its an issue of the heart? I've never heard anyone say his heart is the problem.

It's his motor...4 cylinder in a full size truck.

Speedy Ron 04-12-2013 02:17 PM

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Please no. Liked him coming out of college...hated him since. .5 sacks in his last 31 starts has to be close to worst in the league for a starter. i dont think he would start on the scout team

Papa Voodoo 04-12-2013 02:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy Ron (Post 493734)
Please no. Liked him coming out of college...hated him since. .5 sacks in his last 31 starts has to be close to worst in the league for a starter. i dont think he would start on the scout team

The 0.5 sack means he accidentally fell on the quaterback and the guy that actually sacked him.

Seer1 04-12-2013 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 493742)
The 0.5 sack means he accidentally fell on the quaterback and the guy that actually sacked him.

I remember that play!

Danno 04-12-2013 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 493732)
It's his motor...4 cylinder in a full size truck.

Thats not heart.

If you wanna claim production, I can see your point. But you are in no position to judge his heart.

blackangold 04-12-2013 02:58 PM

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Why would anyone want him back... i don't get it.

He has got to be one of the worst DTs in the league, wait maybe that's why no one has given him a look. No other team has ever brought the guy in for a visit and we would accept him back lol.... consistently saw this guy getting pushed 6 yards back on every running play and i am sure he doesn't know what a QB looks like anymore.

What a joke!

If he gets brought back for any monetary compensation at all ill be disappointed.

Papa Voodoo 04-12-2013 04:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493748)
Thats not heart.

If you wanna claim production, I can see your point. But you are in no position to judge his heart.

We all judged Albert Haynesworth's...no harm in judging Sedrick's. It was a joke btw.

Danno 04-12-2013 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 493772)
We all judged Albert Haynesworth's...no harm in judging Sedrick's. It was a joke btw.

There was proof Albert lacked heart. His lay down went viral. Teammates and media alike commented on it.

There's never been an issue like that with Ellis, ever. Ya'll are just making crap up.

Barry from MS 04-12-2013 04:52 PM

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Ugh...get us another half a sack in the next 31 games and you've got a whole sack in 62 games...we'll name a parade after you for that accomplishment.

SmashMouth 04-12-2013 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 493724)
I'm not against signing him to vet minimum but let's get real here. The only reason he has been in "talks" with the Saints is because no one else wants him. That's what we in the investigatory business call a "clue".

True Dat.. however Julian Edelman was not offered either and he is a decent pick up.
Pats get Julian Edelman for bargain price | ProFootballTalk

I guess there are exceptions.:popcorn:

Cruize 04-12-2013 05:38 PM

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He's certainly worth the vet minimum. He's solid. He just hasn't been the impact player the Saints hoped for when they drafted him so highly. They have done worse.

QBREES9 04-12-2013 09:29 PM

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Man its April 12 not April 1st

homerj07 04-13-2013 12:19 AM

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Well. No

burningmetal 04-13-2013 01:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 493748)
Thats not heart.

If you wanna claim production, I can see your point. But you are in no position to judge his heart.

Effort is all about heart. You can have a great career in college, come into the league and be a big flop, and sometimes it's just because you're over matched. Some guys try hard but just don't match up physically in the NFL. I'm not going to say Sedrick hasn't tried at all, but he has lacked a consistent motor. That IS about heart. I don't know what else you would think that comes from.

You can't have just some heart, you have to be all in. That goes for everything.

saintsfan1976 04-13-2013 10:22 AM

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Unless you're coaching or playing with Ellis, I don't think you can question his motivation.

We are talking about a guy who plays DT here. I'm not gushing over sacks from a DT. Haloti Nagta is arguably the best DT in the NFL and he had 5 sacks last year...

What we want from Ellis is to control the line of scrimmage? Can he do that with his size? I haven't seen it too often. BUT what he can do - as Danno pointed out - is rotate in and be a rushing DT (if there is such a thing) on passing downs.

League min. Prove it in camp. If not, no harm. I don't see why people are having issues with this.

Belair57 04-13-2013 10:56 AM

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hell, I could get .05 sacks over a 31 game span!!! pay me the min

SmashMouth 04-13-2013 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Belair57 (Post 493933)
hell, I could get .05 sacks over a 31 game span!!! pay me the min

Are you 6'3", 325 lbs? Go for it...:bng:

lee909 04-13-2013 11:40 AM

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As much as i want to see him gone,we have all the cards for this deal.
1 year with a team option for a second for a small salary,incentives extension.The lack of offers this summer may well have lit a fire under his backside.The players have got used to getting deals elsewhere if the didnt play as well as they good.That has stopped,not many teams paying big bucks on long term deals for FA.
He is serviceable as a back up at the very least.Fill as many holes predraft then draft who you want,not who you need.

FinSaint 04-13-2013 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 493935)
Are you 6'3", 325 lbs? Go for it...:bng:


Neither is Ellis.


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