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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The issue that 08 seems to be focusing on is whether Deuce should have taken the handoff and knelt or try to get back to the line. Not much Deuce could have done . Deuce\'s mistake was trying to make ...

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Old 09-28-2004, 01:26 AM   #31
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The issue that 08 seems to be focusing on is whether Deuce should have taken the handoff and knelt or try to get back to the line.
Not much Deuce could have done . Deuce\'s mistake was trying to make something out of Brooks playbook ignorance . Deuce was caught behind the line with his helmet pulled down over his eyes and a Seahawk got a helmet on an unprotected ball .

Brooks calls the right play and it is first and ten . Instead he makes a play up and get\'s the runningback suicided .

Moments after the play ended , Deuce was on the field phone to McCarthy , so Deuce knew exactly what happened . Funny part is that when a mistake is made and Deuce is a part of it , he heads to the sideline to figure out how that happened and how it could be corrected . If Brooks makes a mistake he heads to the bench to smile for the camera ....


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Old 09-28-2004, 09:00 AM   #32
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I\'ll chalk this one up to Deuce - no problem with that. That\'s his second one this year, and it need to improve. Of course, when I think back to last year I can think of one on short yardage and two more. So I can remember, off the top of my head, 5 fumbles for Deuce in the last two years. He\'s probably had a few more so let\'s double it and call it 10 shall we?

How many fumbles has Brooks had, and lost in that time? Brooks has LOST more fumbles that Deuce HAS over the last year and a quarter. Good argument Saintfan.

Take it a step further - how many fumbles has AB lost in our or the opponents red zone in the last two years? Deuce?

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Old 09-28-2004, 09:07 AM   #33
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Take it a step further - how many fumbles has AB lost in our or the opponents red zone in the last two years? Deuce?
A handful, to be sure Whodat. I recall the second Tampa game last year. Brooks throws a strike in the end zone and the receiver drops the ball. On the very next play he fumbled the snap. Do I remember that correctly?

My issue with you moonshiners is you fail to recognize the dropped pass and harp on the fumbled snap. You see it as me givin\' Brooks a pass, but that\'s not the case. I focused on the defense giving up 30+ frappin\' points a game while you guys were busy hollerin\' about the QB, who, in spite of the fumbles, had more than respectable numbers.

This thread is about 08\'s abvious agenda. One even you must admit. You\'ve admitted it before. Why back off it now?

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Old 09-28-2004, 10:18 AM   #34
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What is this comment WhoDat ???
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Old 09-28-2004, 08:04 PM   #35
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Sorry 08 - it was sarcasm, but I guess it didn\'t come across right. Saintfan spent this whole thread trying to prove you\'re a nut, and I was just trying to put things in perspective. Hey man, I\'ve been defending you, you wacko!

My issue with you moonshiners is you fail to recognize the dropped pass and harp on the fumbled snap. You see it as me givin\' Brooks a pass, but that\'s not the case. I focused on the defense giving up 30+ frappin\' points a game while you guys were busy hollerin\' about the QB, who, in spite of the fumbles, had more than respectable numbers.
Not true - I was all over Horn abuot that dropped pass against Tampa. No question that had a huge impact on the game and Horn should have caught it. But then, this goes back to Billy turnover argument. What\'s worse, a dropped pass in the end zone where you get another chance or have to kick a field goal, or a fumble that turns the ball over to the other team? Joe Horn\'s drop was a mistake, but his mistake doesn\'t make Brooks\' OK. You know that.

And don\'t come to me about the defense. I may have been hard on Brooks in the past, but I have definitely been very tough on Venturi and Haslett about the defense and their lack of moves to fix it. I\'ve also torn up just abuot every position on that side of the ball. There\'s not a guy that didn\'t get picked on by me at some point.

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Sorry 08 - it was sarcasm, but I guess it didn\'t come across right. Saintfan spent this whole thread trying to prove you\'re a nut, and I was just trying to put things in perspective. Hey man, I\'ve been defending you, you wacko!
Leave it to Saintfan to miss some key point .....What\'s new ....

Still do not agree that Deuce is solely responsible for the fumble . The man was bushwacked in the backfield on a play that Brooks made up in his head . Not sure but this play may be the reason McCarthy is back on the sidelines , rather then in the booth .

WhoDat - got a question for you . Have you ever caught a football traveling at 90 miles an hour ???

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but his mistake doesn\'t make Brooks\' OK. You know that.
This is the argument you use against me ALL THE TIME in an effort to \"skirt\" the point I\'m usually trying to make, which is that the moonshiners typically (usually -- in fact nearly always) ignore every issue related to this team\'s (at times) poor performance and jump right in on the Brooks bashing. I suspect this is why it took you nearly a year to \"acknowledge\" the fact that our receivers were (and so far this year still are) dropping catchable passes. You know this is true...acknowledge it or don\'t, but the history is right here on this web site. Look to 08\'s most recent post in this thread. He\'ll blame these dropped passes on Brooks. It never ends with this guy. If you fail to recognize it you\'re either ingnorant, blind, or your agenda won\'t allow you to admit it. For what it\'s worth I know you\'re not ignorant and I doubt your blind.

I have NEVER...that\'s N-E-V-E-R attempted to indicate that another players mistake provided Brooks with any level of an excuse. I, once again, challenge you to find a post that even approaches showing why you might accuse me of that. In fact (are you wearing your \"skirt\" today) I\'m still waiting on you to find any evidence of my ever having said any of the following:

YOU blame an O-line that excels in pass protection for Brooks\' bad games.

YOU blame WRs for not catching poorly thrown balls

YOU blame the coaches when Brooks can\'t call the right play

YOU blame the defense for games when Brooks turns the ball over 3 times.

On the other hand, you\'ll find Negative moonshinin\' naysayers (look to 08 for your profile) doing exactly the opposite --hold Brooks responsible for another player\'s mistake -- and you need look no further than this very thread. Defend his silly little logic if you must, but you and I both know the deal. Have you heard his reasoning for Deuce\'s other fumble this year? Nope, but if you press him hard enough he\'ll find Brooks at fault for it...somehow. Someway.

Sorry 08 - it was sarcasm
Ahhh, sarcasm. Let\'s just remember that you akcnowledge using \"sarcasm\". Willing to cast the first stone eh Whodat? LMAO

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