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Old 07-30-2013, 09:23 PM   #11
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Re: 3-4 101: The Basics

I still would like to see someone with size and weight in the middle, the front 3 will have to play lights out for smaller ILB to do well.
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I still would like to see someone with size and weight in the middle, the front 3 will have to play lights out for smaller ILB to do well.
True, this article was 3 years old and they were projecting draft picks that best fit the 3-4 roles.

Guess who they identified as the ideal SILB for this type of defense?

Hint: He just dislocated his elbow.
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True, this article was 3 years old and they were projecting draft picks that best fit the 3-4 roles.

Guess who they identified as the ideal SILB for this type of defense?

Hint: He just dislocated his elbow.
He does have the tools.
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Re: 3-4 101: The Basics

Same here Danno.
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:17 PM   #15
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Re: 3-4 101: The Basics

From the limited footage i have seen of camp our OLBs need to do a better job of setting the edge on running plays.
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In fact, a coach influenced by both flavors of the 3-4 might be tempted to meld both concepts with traditional 4-3 ideas and create a monster playbook with more than 50 fronts. And pull it off with amazing success.
...or make a complete disaster of this opportunity with too many plays...

...Ryan needs to keep it simple and throw in a few (less than five) wrinkles per week to keep the opposition honest...

...these guys get huge contracts because they're big, fast not because they can compute mathematical calculations of an artificial satellite orbit...

Ryan needs to realize that he's as smart as the guy that slept in a Holiday Inn Express...
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Great thread!


Originally Posted by halloween 65 View Post
I still would like to see someone with size and weight in the middle, the front 3 will have to play lights out for smaller ILB to do well.
I can really only think of three guys at NT ... Wilfork (NE), Hampton (PIT) and Shaun Rogers (DET/CLE/NO/NYG/Gone) ... and how they exemplify the 'big-man-clogging-up-the-middle' philosophy of the 3-4.

We've all seen Rogers and what a bust he could be at tackle, but he did have some success at NT with Cleveland. Hampton and Wilfork are beasts, but of the three, Wilfork is the only one that really stays healthy, but therein lies the rub.

These guys are big, but are they "in-shape" big or "outta'-shape" big? They take lots of abuse as well, not only from opposing lineman, but just from moving those 300lb+ frames around.

You need to find a guy that can carry the weight and not have to come to the sidelines every third play for oxygen. Or maybe a couple guys to share the load.
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Re: 3-4 101: The Basics

during practice yesterday, pre-snap Jordan was only lineman with hand on the ground lined up between center and guard, then right before the snap Will Smith shifts down to DE so they still had 3 LBs out there plus 6 DBs (4 Ss). I like it but Rob might be tipping his hand just a little
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The Dome Patrol was 2-gap, right?
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The Dome Patrol was 2-gap, right?
Yep
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