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Old 08-25-2013, 08:02 PM   #1
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Three thoughts from the Saintsí 31-23 win over the Texans:
1) Pierre Thomas' first action of preseason shows he still has "it"
Pierre Thomas doesnít necessarily get lost among Saints fan. But because heís so consistently solid, his value sometimes gets forgotten in the larger landscape of things.

But on his 51-yard touchdown reception in the second quarter, he showed exactly why he needs to be a bigger part of the Saintsí offense. Not only is he sure-handed, his open-field running is among the best in the league and we saw that. Thomas not only allows his blockers to do their job, heís spectacular at reading those blocks.

He finished his day against Houston with 19 yards on four carries and the one catch for 51 yards. Heíll provide, once again, a tremendous changeup to Mark Ingram and Darren Sproles.

The key for Thomas is getting him in the game and getting him touches.
Thomas hadnít seen the field yet in a preseason game until Sunday. He showed that he needs very little game-work to be game-ready. If he can stay healthy, the one-two-three punch of Ingram, Sproles and Thomas could help the Saints recapture the NFC South.

2) Saints defense shows some issues defending hurry-up offense
Three different times this season the Saintsí first-team defense has faced a hurry-up or two-minute offense. Three different times they were under three different situations. And yet, the results were all nearly the same Ė three long drives that ended in points for the opponent.

Against Kansas City, the Saints werenít exactly expecting a hurry-up offense right out of the gate. The Saints didnít even have their entire defensive playbook installed. But Kansas City drove 80 yards in 14 plays, putting up seven first downs on their way to a touchdown.

Oaklandís lone positive drive with the first-team came with 3:03 to play in the first half. Matt Flynn, running the two-minute offense, guided the Raiders 78 yards in nine plays, the last of which was an 18-yard touchdown pass. But the Saints were using backup inside linebackers and had safety Malcolm Jenkins calling the defense.

Sunday, though, all was set Ė Curtis Lofton was in the game, calling the defense against Houstonís first-team offense. And still the Texans drove. Matt Schaub led the Texans 77 yards in 10 plays with just 1 minute, 14 seconds to go in the first half, the last of which was a 21-yard field goal.

Itís something to keep in mind as the real season gets underway.

3) Tanner, Parker giving Payton, Loomis tough decision to make
Andy Tanner and Preston Parker are giving Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton headaches. The good kind, of course. But headaches nonetheless.

Tanner finished Sundayís game with three catches for 33 yards and two touchdowns. Parker had one catch for eight yards. Tannerís third game stats were nearly identical to Parkerís preseason opener, when he caught four passes for 43 yards and two scores.

But these two wonít make the team because of what they can do on offense. Itís what can they do on special teams and Sunday, both showed theyíre plenty valuable there, too.

Parker brought a kickoff return back 52 yards. Tanner was in on several stops on kickoff, including after both touchdown catches.

The Saints are set at receiver with Marques Colston, Lance Moore, Nick Toon and Kenny Stills. Thereís likely only one position open if you consider Courtney Robyís spot safe. After Sunday, though, itís not as easy to say Robyís spot is solid.

In what is one of the hardest things theyíll have to do all year, Payton and Loomis will have to figure out the bottom of their 53-man, piecing together all the moving parts into a living puzzle.

Itís conceivable that they find a way to keep all three on the roster. But itís unlikely.

Regardless, Tanner and Parker have done enough that theyíll be able to find a spot somewhere if they do get cut.

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Old 08-25-2013, 08:13 PM   #2
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Re: 3 thoughts on Saints game: Pierre Thomas 'still has it'

Cut Roby, keep Tanner and Parker. Roby will never be a legit WR and there has to be someone that can play a position and return kicks on the team. What about Sproles or even Parker.
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For all the handwringing here about our defense, can you imagine what the Texans' fans are thinking? They got shredded at home by the likes of Luke McCown and Ryan Griffin.
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For all the handwringing here about our defense, can you imagine what the Texans' fans are thinking? They got shredded at home by the likes of Luke McCown and Ryan Griffin.
No Doubt!

McCown - 10/14 118 yards 2 TDs
Griffin - 8/13 86 yards 1 TD

Not too mention they gave up some big passes to the backs

PT had a 51 yard TD pass
Ingram had one for 28 yards
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Good stuff...

My takeaways
1. Our defense wasn't bad, but they still need some more time to jell, Also, we're still without our top 3 OLBs (Butler IR, Galette and Wilson still hurt)

2, Is it just me, or does the combo of Hawthorne/Humber look like the top 2 ILB's on this team. I really like this combo more and more

3. In two years Stills and Toon will be our #1 and #2 WR. We have 7 WR's that will be on an NFL roster this year.
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Re: 3 thoughts on Saints game: Pierre Thomas 'still has it'

Danno has all valid points. We did not look that bad. Could do w/o giving A Johnson 130 yrds. But we are known for giving up mega yards to #1 WRs & Rookie QBs.
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Good stuff...

My takeaways
1. Our defense wasn't bad, but they still need some more time to jell, Also, we're still without our top 3 OLBs (Butler IR, Galette and Wilson still hurt)

2, Is it just me, or does the combo of Hawthorne/Humber look like the top 2 ILB's on this team. I really like this combo more and more

3. In two years Stills and Toon will be our #1 and #2 WR. We have 7 WR's that will be on an NFL roster this year.
#2, Lofton as much as I like him and I do, looks out of place. I agree with you on this. On #1 I thought our secondary looked the worst, all but V. Someone has to step up and become a true leader in the secondary or bring in a very good vet to lead. V is a rookie, and needs someone to teach him better than what we have.
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Tough choices. Looking like this is going to be our best rookie class of all time. I'm willing to bet all our scouts will be gone next season. They made it look easy.
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my thoughts on the game....

1. Andy Tanner deserves to make a roster even if its not with us. You won't be able to stash him on the practice squad a third year in a row.

2. Can you imagine a four wideout shot gun offensive set where Colston, Moore, Toon, and Stills are your wideouts, Sproles or Pierre is the back on one side and Jimmy Graham is lined up as the back on the other side of Drew Brees.... Wow.... that is the crazy scary for any defense alive.

3. The 3-4 was just as confusing to watch in person as it must have been for the players on the field playing the defense (at times) I don't care what defense it is, in no defense is Will Smith ever, ever supposed to be shade covering Andre Johnson... that part scares me that is all

4. Cam..... oh Cam, you can tell he is coming into his own but without extra help on pressures it looks like he is the only one getting to the qb with any
regularity...

5. On Houston radio they were happy with the offense, but disappointed that a career backup was able to work over parts of their first team D.

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