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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; QB - Restructure Brees' contract immediately. RB - Keep Ingram, Robinson, and Thomas. Let Sproles and Cadet walk. FB - We need a hybrid like Danno said. WR - We need a legitimate #1 that has the speed to take ...

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Old 01-12-2014, 02:52 PM   #21
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Re: Solutions for 2014

QB - Restructure Brees' contract immediately.

RB - Keep Ingram, Robinson, and Thomas. Let Sproles and Cadet walk.

FB - We need a hybrid like Danno said.

WR - We need a legitimate #1 that has the speed to take the top off the defense and command double teams. I'd probably let Meachem and Moore walk. Keep Colston and Stills, and rebuild from there.

TE - Resign the graham cracker. He soft, but hes still good.

LT - I like it. Armstead.

LG - I like it. Grubbs.

C - Get DLP the **** out of here. Sign Mack or the boy from GB.

RG - I like it. Evans.

RT - Make Strief a back up like he should be. Michael Ohr?

DE - We good.

NT - We good

LB - We need speed. I'm not sure about Lofton and Hawthorne anymore.

CB - We need somebody opposite of Lewis. The boy out of Tennessee is nice.

S - Vacarro and Bush? Yep. Let the other fools be back ups for cheap.

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Old 01-12-2014, 03:22 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
The main culprits were stagnate starts, early mistakes, bad O-line play, and drops.

The O-line play was the glaring problem in my opinion.
Of all the things people will complain about it was the o-line, IMO, that truly held us back. We need a stout center is what we need.
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:32 PM   #23
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We defiantly need Bush back, he is one of the hardest hitting safeties in the league.
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:56 PM   #24
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There is just no way we're going to sign Alex Mack. I don't think a lot of you realize just how bad our cap situation is. Trust me, I'd love to have him, but he's one of the best centers (if not THE best) in the league, and his contract will back that up. We can't afford to pay anybody the big bucks besides J Graham.

I hope and pray we resign Rafael Bush and Strief. I also think Cadet needs to go. Will Smith needs to be cut as well.
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There is just no way we're going to sign Alex Mack. I don't think a lot of you realize just how bad our cap situation is. Trust me, I'd love to have him, but he's one of the best centers (if not THE best) in the league, and his contract will back that up. We can't afford to pay anybody the big bucks besides J Graham.

I hope and pray we resign Rafael Bush and Strief. I also think Cadet needs to go. Will Smith needs to be cut as well.
Maybe, Mack will probably get around 5 to 6 million per season. It's steep but doable.
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Old 01-12-2014, 04:11 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Maybe, Mack will probably get around 5 to 6 million per season. It's steep but doable.
Perhaps. I certainly hope so. That might mean having to cut some old favorites (like Greer and Moore) but if we could get Mack I would be willing to part with those two.
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Old 01-12-2014, 04:11 PM   #27
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Re: Solutions for 2014

1) O-Line
2) DB
3) BIG WR
4) Championship.
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Old 01-12-2014, 04:30 PM   #28
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It's still early but some moves I would like to see...

1) Restructure Drew's contract. Make his contract so he's getting more guaranteed. Last year the Giants restructured Eli's contract so that he got $9 million of his $10.75 million up front and only counted for $1.75 million against the cap. We can easily do this with Drew where he gets all his money owed but with a much smaller cap number.

2) Draft a WR who has the potential to be a #1. Kelvin Benjamin is projected to go right around when we're picking. He's a big, strong, athletic WR that can open the field and get off the press coverage that really hurt this team this year. The refs seem to be allowing DB's to get a little more physical and our WR's have a tough time getting separation, we need someone like Benjamin.

3) Draft another CB to play opposite Lewis. As much as I like Greer, at his age coming off the injury he suffered I fear he may be done. White got some experience and can play the Nickle but we need another guy. I'd like to see use use an early round pick for this position.

4) Improve the O-line, particularly at center and RT. Armstead showed me something at LT and we're solid at the Guards but we could use some upgrades and depth here.

5) Get a little younger and more athletic at LB. Hawthorne and Lofton are solid vets and should still be on the team but I'd like to see us add some athleticism to go along these guys.

6) I'd like another safety to go along with Vaccaro. I think we should resign either Jenkins or Harper (not both, I'm leaning towards keeping Jenkins). We also definitely need to resign Bush (who could start next year) but adding another player here with a mid round pick would be a good idea.

7) Time to let some vets go. Smith and Vilma are no brainers. After these 2, either Harper or Jenkins. Some others are Brown, DLP, either Moore or Meach and one of our RB's.

8) Resign Jimmy Graham. I don't get all the hate for this guy. 31 other teams would love to have him on their team. Teams are just all over him because we have no other WR who can get downfield. Pair Jimmy with a WR who is physical enough to get off jams and opposing defenses would have no chance.

9) Find a kicker. Really wish the kid from FSU was in this draft, that kid can kick. I'll admit, I don't know much about kickers in the draft and the ones that are free agents but we need to get someone here who can kick.

Overall it's really not that much. Some tweaks that can be addressed in the draft and free agency. We got a great core to build around, now time to get some extra pieces to bring this team to the next level.
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1. Restructure Brees Contract ... 70M is enough for someone who can't produce when it matters. We're not the cowboys we don't reward mediocrity.

2.Resign Soft and Over-rated. He did nothing when it mattered either. Although good He shouldn't expect a max Contract.

3. Release : Will Smith , Jonathan Vilma ( hurts ) , Malcolm Jenkins , Roman Harper , Robert Meachem , Charles Brown , Zach Strief ( I know what I've seen is enough ) , and DLP. ( Holding up blocking isn't good enough in Seattle or San Fran and Now Carolina. Add some Lovie Smith in that , Falcons Pick up Clowney , yeah this need be addressed )

4. 2 Running Backs Need To Go ... Neither named Ingram or Robinson ( Imagine Saying that Last Year ) Sproles can Stay , if he's odd man out we will address this in the draft.

5. With new cap space , Sign Alex Mack Pro Bowl Center Browns. Versatile Safety Ryan Clark Pittsburgh. definitely Resign Bush. Offer Darius Heyward Bey WR . Sign LB Jon Beason to a 1 yr deal.

6. Draft : Kelvin Benjamin FSU (wr) , If Sproles goes , D Thomas RB Oregon 3drb 2nd round.

Perhaps a new OC ... Our hurry up offense caused delay of game penalties ... Why would we give defense time to adjust catch their breath and get settled ? That's like letting Tyson cock back !! Sign Mark Helfriech , if foles can shine in that offense wonder what Brees could do !!!
1 and 2 I agree with. 3. I doubt us letting go of Jenkins and Roman but Meachem can be replaced by either Stills or Morgan both are younger. 4 I doubt happens. Only rb I see going is cadet. Everyone else is solid. Sproles is still valuable and who knows if someone as good falls to us in the draft. 5. I rather us resign bush and get some oline help or maybe another cb with lewis potential. 6. As much as Kelvin sounds good we should draft the best player available and not for need so much especially because we have a history of drafting studs late. I believe the crowd played a factor in those delay of games but we need a new special teams coach asap. We have been weak in that area for some time.
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I agree with most of what rez said except for getting rid of JGraham.

After watching the SF and CP game , which was just what I had hoped to see and thought I would, the Saints need to come out with attitiude of wanting to win. 1st qrtr. 15:00 on the clock.
No, I do not mean antics of chest thumping, fighting, not that.
I mean coming out strong, hard, fast and with few turnovers to the other teams.

I know turnovers happen. It is the game, but Saints seem to make way too many turnovers to the other team.

Turnovers and starting the game so slow in scoring and momentum killed the Saints yesterday and at least during the season against NEPats and CPanthers.
Coming back after 2nd half when you are a good ,say, 14 pts. behind is usually too late unless you have luck , which is not a guarantee , or you are I-do-not-know-how -they-do-it Brady and PManning.
Andrew Luck and Colts really fought back and it work and good luck too.

Looking at SF, they totally destroyed, broke the CPanthers down. Early on.

I think SF will destroy SS AGAIN.
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