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Old 08-09-2014, 05:05 AM   #21
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Re: Ok the good the bad and the ugly

Grading the drafted rookies:

Brandin Cooks = A- good; he showed great explosiveness & willing to block

Bad : learn how to draw a penalty or come off the line a little stronger from aggressive corner

Ugly; the rams had great coverage & hang time on punt return





Stanley Jean Baptiste; B-, Good, great tight coverage, held his lane on Special Team

Bad; too raw and need to be brought slowly; had tight coverage thru out the game but need to be a little faster on anticipating when the ball is in the air


Ugly; didn't seem familiar w/wr motion on man to man and let the wr get too much separation



Khari Fortt C good; played with some aggression coming off blocks

Bad; overran a few plays

Ugly; only one tackle


Vinnie Sunseri C+ good ,played under control played to the whistle with a lot of hustle

Bad; didn't do anything spectacular to put himself ahead of Marcus Ball & Pierre Warren unless Saints planning on carrying 6 safeties he gotta step it up


Ugly ;coverage skills remind me of Roman Harper


Ronald Powell C, good, got a sack ,

Bad, awareness look slow coming after block, need another technique besides speed rush

Ugly, most likely practice squad




Tavon Rooks A+ good played great ,made blocks and got to second level blocks with ease

Bad. He was playing against ram's 3rd or 4th defense



Ugly , called for holding, other than that played great
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:15 AM   #22
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Re: Ok the good the bad and the ugly

The biggest positive I saw was Ingram. He finally looked like the back I have been hoping for him to be all along.
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Most has been covered, I'll add what I haven't read.

Strozier - a lot of work to do but he was Sprolin.

Toon - Still not a fan, for a 3rd year player he looks very questionable, awkward, and I don't see 100% being given. Nothing has changed from his rookie year.


#44 Brian Dixon - just ..... Ouch, he is painful to watch.

P. Robinson - Didn't tell his name once.

Their defense had a few players out as I understand it, our ground game looked fairly solid but I'm not going to get too high until we show consistency across a few games. I'm not really interested in 300 yards on the ground every 5th game as I am 150 on the ground each game.

With so many starters not playing it's very difficult to get a feel for each unit.

Last year KC moved the ball at will on us in the opening PS game. Defense ended up being 5th in the league.

Where was Bailey?
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:40 AM   #24
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well, here are my 2 cents, you know, for what it is worth.

The Oline did well run blocking but the pass blocking was weak. Both McCown and Griffin were getting pressured almost every snap and the plays could not develop. It might have been bad pocket presence by the 2 QBs but it just seemed at the snap there was a defender in the backfield.

McCown threw a terrible pass right at Long for the INT. It was going to be a screen to Cooks and he had tons of daylight. I would have liked to see that play work out. It is evident we need Drew as none of these QBs are the real future.

Curtis Lofton missed the assignment on the 1st TD and that is worrisome as he is not a rookie or young 2nd/3rd year guy. I know the defense is trying to work out the kinks but you should at least know your assignments when running a vanilla defense.

Brandin Cooks played well. I am not sure who it was in the message boards who asked for just a taste of what Cooks can do and nothing more as to not unveil our secret weapon, but they seem to have gotten their wish. Cooks wasn't 'all world' but that touchdown catch gave just enough to keep fans satiated.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:13 AM   #25
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I forgot an ugly.
Whatthuhfuq is with Gregg Wiliams? Who has grey/blond/brown hair and a jet black goatee?

Witness Protection? Ate some Kiwi shoe polish?
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Little disappointed in White. I don't think he can play outside.

Warren impressed me. Great instincts!
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I didnt get to see the game, so I have to ask.....was Coleman really tbat bad? I read that he was slow with his progress during OTAs, but seemed to catch on during camp.Do yall think hes worth holding on to or was one game enough to consider him done?
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:46 AM   #28
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I didnt get to see the game, so I have to ask.....was Coleman really tbat bad? I read that he was slow with his progress during OTAs, but seemed to catch on during camp.Do yall think hes worth holding on to or was one game enough to consider him done?
I would rather a guy like Andy Tanner who has shown he has the heart and work ethic to be an NFL player. I get that Coleman is 6'6" and a HUGE target for Brees, but I don't think Brees would trust him in a real game scenario. I also think Toon might be on the outs. He had his chance last season and dropped some crucial balls and then in this game he caught passes but then he would go down on the first hit. Missed 2 1st downs because he couldn't move the ball up the field.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:50 AM   #29
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Let's hope that Coleman can bounce back like Stills did last year.
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Anyone else notice that Khiry doesn't go down on the first hit? Dude is a tackle breaking machine.
And that spin move... it's a beautiful thing. Even when he is tackled, he lunges forward for positive yards.
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