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lynwood 12-31-2004 11:49 AM

Best Saints QB Ever
With AB getting closer to holding most of the saints records and a first playoff win, is he the best Saints QB?

GumboBC 12-31-2004 12:00 PM

Best Saints QB Ever
Some will say Archie and some will say Brooks.

Archie threw more INts than TDs and never made it to the playoffs.

Brooks has superior stats and led this team to its only playoff victory.

In fairness to Archie, he played on terrible teams. It was far from being Archie\'s fault for the dismal record the Saints had.

And in fairness to Brooks, he\'s been on teams with a terrible defense along with many more problems.

There\'s never been ONE QB who has got his team to the superbowl by himself. Wins/loses don\'t define the QB position. If it did, then Archie would have at least had us in the playoffs. Archie did play with some probowl guys on offense. But his O-line and the defense was just terrible. Kinda like this years version of the Saints.

JOESAM2002 12-31-2004 01:11 PM

Best Saints QB Ever
Gee, what a shock! :rollinglaugh:

saintswhodi 12-31-2004 02:32 PM

Best Saints QB Ever
You read my mind JOESAM.


Brooks has superior stats

CHACHING 12-31-2004 03:20 PM

Best Saints QB Ever
Why are you guys so hard on Gumbo?.............
Brooks is very good ......with the problems........who was better???......Tolliver??...Hobert?......Everett????

GumboBC 12-31-2004 03:25 PM

Best Saints QB Ever

Why are you guys so hard on Gumbo?.............
Brooks is very good ......with the problems........who was better???......Tolliver??...Hobert?......Everett????
You noticed that, huh?

It\'s cool with me. It\'s just that I\'m a big Brooks\' supporter and they don\'t like that. And I call them on their anit-Brooks propaganda.

To hear some tell it ... if you support Brooks you\'re crazy.

Again, it\'s cool with me. I kind of encourage some of it. Makes things interesting. ;)

ScottyRo 12-31-2004 03:33 PM

Best Saints QB Ever
Everett wasn\'t the greatest QB ever, but we\'d have made the playoffs Ditka\'s first year if he\'d have kept Everett around. Otherwise...

It\'s terribly complicated to compare players from different NFL eras. I don\'t think you put up stats against stats in that situation and say one was better than another. I think the best clue as to who has been the Saints best QB is to look at how important each was to his team at the time and how long the team held on to him.

Using that criteria, I\'d have to go with Manning, for now.

CHACHING 12-31-2004 03:35 PM

Best Saints QB Ever
I love wife bought me his signed rookie card for christmas.........I would take Manning as the best...

GumboBC 12-31-2004 03:40 PM

Best Saints QB Ever
It\'s been said many times on here that wins are all that matters when it comes to a QB. Now, in no way do I believe that and I don\'t think any sane person believes that.

But if you do, that leaves Archie out and make Hebert the best Saints QB ever.

Or if you go by \"BIG\" wins, that makes Brooks the best ever. He won the biggest game in Saints history.

I watched Archie play and he was very good. He also threw more ill advised INTs than Brooks has ever thought about throwing.

It really comes down to personal preferance. Archie sure didn\'t do anything that could be considered great.

Unless you call never having a winning season and throwing 125 TDs and 171 INTS great.

saintswhodi 12-31-2004 04:13 PM

Best Saints QB Ever
Brooks has \"one off year\" because of a bad line and he gets a free pass, even though he has the best talent in Saints history around him.

Archie was the only player the Saints had during his time, and he is crap. Does Brooks pay you to be so blindly in love with him? It\'s scary. Seriously.

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