Zach Strief: Andrus Peat will take my job eventually

hagan714 · 05-19-2015, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Which is why for now he's purely a RT prospect, and a damn good one.

purely a RT prospect?????

he was the best pure LT prospect in the draft. he has never played RT. If the saints drafted him to play RT they truly miss scouted this kid. that also would make even more concerned with the saints pegging Collins as a OG. if right tackle is the spot they are envisioning him to play then i really think he wont be starting right out of camp or the saints believe he has to learn on the job and stepping up into the pocket will be huge. So the jimmy trade makes even more sense now.

So Zach Strief saying: "Andrus Peat will take my job eventually"

The eventually part marks absolute sense. it will take longer for him to learn RT and learn to deal with the speed of the NFL than training him up for LT and sliding Terron over to RT.

Do not get me wrong I like the kid. i thought the giants would take him or Collins. At the same time I would not have been shocked to see him on the board when the panthers picked either. due to inconsistencies in his play

Talent and size are there but the kid really needs some serious polish work done to his game.

I do not see him starting. I see plenty of playing time without a doubt. I am happy with that senior for year 1. years 2 he should be ready to step right in. anything early will be a pleasant surprise.

next years draft could be fun to see what the saints pick. OL again? The Peat pick really has me wondering what the overall strategy the saints are using for the future up front.

hagan714 · 05-19-2015, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I personally don't think we spent the #13th pick on a player who will sit any. I'm thinking Peats' athleticism wins him the RT spot immediately...

See i think the old school way of thinking about RT has to be thrown out the window much like the old school thinking of SS has been.

Top ten defenses are what you build to compete against. want a super bowl push? you can not do it with an old school RT anymore.

Pass happy offenses have led to more sub packages on defenses than any standard defensive set. That means speed on both ends on the field easily 70% of the time. Especially when the elite defenses take the field. So your RT like Zach and i hate to say it are becoming a thing of the past very quickly.

Peat needs some work sure but he has everything you look for in a POWER LOT. As a ZONE blocking OT that still needs to work on that. He should pick that part up pretty quickly. It's the foot work at OT i worry about the most right now. It needs work. even more if he is to start at RT. But the upside indicates he just needs some time and coaching that is all and he will be ready to go. how quick he picks it up? i give it max a year

Like i said before next year should be the year we are really able to cash in on the kid. Anything earlier is a nice bonus.

hagan714 · 05-19-2015, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'd plug these guys in like this:

LT Andrus Peat
LG Tim Lelito
C Max Unger
RG Jahri Evans
RT Terron Armstead

RL Zach Strief

2016? right?

player on my IR watch that would plug in nicely 2016 nfl draft
round 2 LOT/ROG LeRaven Clark Texas Tech

Some great talent for the OL in round 1 but i have my eyes on
Jaylon Smith Notre Dame OLB/ILB best 3 down LB in the draft?

jeanpierre · 05-19-2015, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Was Triplett speculating that Sean Payton spoke those words to him?

Payton talking about if Shelton had fell past Cleveland...

Sean Payton envisions Andrus Peat playing right tackle - NFL.com

saintsfan1976 · 05-19-2015, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Payton talking about if Shelton had fell past Cleveland...

Sean Payton envisions Andrus Peat playing right tackle - NFL.com

Yes, there would have been a discussion. I'm happy we took Peat and furthermore, I hope we land a stud OG in next year's draft as well.

Mr.Riaton · 05-19-2015, 07:40 AM

I watched an interview with Peat and he said alot of things are the same as what they did at Stanford just the terminology is different. Coming from a pro style offense, this kid might be more pro ready that we think. Preseason performance will give us a better idea of what may happen. Taking Strief off the field may not be the best idea right now because he is a captain, but Unger may fill that void.

saintsfan1976 · 05-19-2015, 07:51 AM

Terron Armstead didn't break through until later in 2013.

ScottF · 05-19-2015, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

See I think the opposite to start the season, at least.

LT - Armstead
LG - Lelito
C - Unger
RG - Evans
RT - Strief

If (when) Armstead or Strief misses time - and let's hope that's not for 8-10 games in - Peat is a plug and play without much drop off.

I'd be good with that too, although two inexperienced starters game 1 is a little scary. 20 career starts divided between 3 guys... I'd say start Strief and let one or the other develop.
Great to have options other than pulling a guy from PS and having him start, eh?

saintsfan1976 · 05-19-2015, 08:29 AM

By 2016 we could have one of the most formidable o lines in the league

Danno · 05-19-2015, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

purely a RT prospect?????

he was the best pure LT prospect in the draft. he has never played RT. If the saints drafted him to play RT they truly miss scouted this kid. that also would make even more concerned with the saints pegging Collins as a OG. if right tackle is the spot they are envisioning him to play then i really think he wont be starting right out of camp or the saints believe he has to learn on the job and stepping up into the pocket will be huge. So the jimmy trade makes even more sense now.

So Zach Strief saying: "Andrus Peat will take my job eventually"

The eventually part marks absolute sense. it will take longer for him to learn RT and learn to deal with the speed of the NFL than training him up for LT and sliding Terron over to RT.

Do not get me wrong I like the kid. i thought the giants would take him or Collins. At the same time I would not have been shocked to see him on the board when the panthers picked either. due to inconsistencies in his play

Talent and size are there but the kid really needs some serious polish work done to his game.

I do not see him starting. I see plenty of playing time without a doubt. I am happy with that senior for year 1. years 2 he should be ready to step right in. anything early will be a pleasant surprise.

next years draft could be fun to see what the saints pick. OL again? The Peat pick really has me wondering what the overall strategy the saints are using for the future up front.

Good points, bad choice of words for me. I think 2015 he is purely gonna play RT, and likely 2016, and play it very very well. Especially if Armstead continues to shine. Willie Roaf started on the right, then moved to left. I think many OT's started on the right before moving to the left.

I don't think Armstead is a fit at RT at all. He looks like a LT, has LT feet and LT athleticism. I don't think he'd succeed at RT at all.

BUT...

as you said, todays NFL is much different. Having a RT with LT skills may be a good idea on a pass happy team like we are. Maybe there's no longer a need for that power blocking RT anymore. And in a zone blocking scheme athleticism plays a much bigger role than power does. So maybe Armstead to RT isn't as bad as I think. Yeah Payton is talking about running more, again. I'll believe that when we see it.

No matter how it shakes out, I'm sold that we made the right choice in Peat.

Here's my prediction (for 2015)
LT-Armstead (Peat IF Armstead gets hurt again)
LG-Lelito
C-Unger
RG-Evans
RT-Strief (Peat by mid season, or if Strief gets hurt)

05-19-2015, 04:25 AM	#21
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Zach Strief: Andrus Peat will take my job eventually Originally Posted by Danno Which is why for now he's purely a RT prospect, and a damn good one. purely a RT prospect????? he was the best pure LT prospect in the draft. he has never played RT. If the saints drafted him to play RT they truly miss scouted this kid. that also would make even more concerned with the saints pegging Collins as a OG. if right tackle is the spot they are envisioning him to play then i really think he wont be starting right out of camp or the saints believe he has to learn on the job and stepping up into the pocket will be huge. So the jimmy trade makes even more sense now. So Zach Strief saying: "Andrus Peat will take my job eventually" The eventually part marks absolute sense. it will take longer for him to learn RT and learn to deal with the speed of the NFL than training him up for LT and sliding Terron over to RT. Do not get me wrong I like the kid. i thought the giants would take him or Collins. At the same time I would not have been shocked to see him on the board when the panthers picked either. due to inconsistencies in his play Talent and size are there but the kid really needs some serious polish work done to his game. I do not see him starting. I see plenty of playing time without a doubt. I am happy with that senior for year 1. years 2 he should be ready to step right in. anything early will be a pleasant surprise. next years draft could be fun to see what the saints pick. OL again? The Peat pick really has me wondering what the overall strategy the saints are using for the future up front. Rugby Saint II and Mr.Riaton like this.
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05-19-2015, 04:43 AM	#22
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Zach Strief: Andrus Peat will take my job eventually Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I personally don't think we spent the #13th pick on a player who will sit any. I'm thinking Peats' athleticism wins him the RT spot immediately... See i think the old school way of thinking about RT has to be thrown out the window much like the old school thinking of SS has been. Top ten defenses are what you build to compete against. want a super bowl push? you can not do it with an old school RT anymore. Pass happy offenses have led to more sub packages on defenses than any standard defensive set. That means speed on both ends on the field easily 70% of the time. Especially when the elite defenses take the field. So your RT like Zach and i hate to say it are becoming a thing of the past very quickly. Peat needs some work sure but he has everything you look for in a POWER LOT. As a ZONE blocking OT that still needs to work on that. He should pick that part up pretty quickly. It's the foot work at OT i worry about the most right now. It needs work. even more if he is to start at RT. But the upside indicates he just needs some time and coaching that is all and he will be ready to go. how quick he picks it up? i give it max a year Like i said before next year should be the year we are really able to cash in on the kid. Anything earlier is a nice bonus.
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05-19-2015, 05:19 AM	#23
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Zach Strief: Andrus Peat will take my job eventually Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd plug these guys in like this: LT Andrus Peat LG Tim Lelito C Max Unger RG Jahri Evans RT Terron Armstead RL Zach Strief 2016? right? player on my IR watch that would plug in nicely 2016 nfl draft round 2 LOT/ROG LeRaven Clark Texas Tech Some great talent for the OL in round 1 but i have my eyes on Jaylon Smith Notre Dame OLB/ILB best 3 down LB in the draft?

05-19-2015, 06:05 AM	#24
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Zach Strief: Andrus Peat will take my job eventually Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Was Triplett speculating that Sean Payton spoke those words to him? Payton talking about if Shelton had fell past Cleveland... Sean Payton envisions Andrus Peat playing right tackle - NFL.com

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Zach Strief: Andrus Peat will take my job eventually Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 See I think the opposite to start the season, at least. LT - Armstead LG - Lelito C - Unger RG - Evans RT - Strief If (when) Armstead or Strief misses time - and let's hope that's not for 8-10 games in - Peat is a plug and play without much drop off. I'd be good with that too, although two inexperienced starters game 1 is a little scary. 20 career starts divided between 3 guys... I'd say start Strief and let one or the other develop. Great to have options other than pulling a guy from PS and having him start, eh? saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,646	Re: Zach Strief: Andrus Peat will take my job eventually Originally Posted by hagan714 purely a RT prospect????? he was the best pure LT prospect in the draft. he has never played RT. If the saints drafted him to play RT they truly miss scouted this kid. that also would make even more concerned with the saints pegging Collins as a OG. if right tackle is the spot they are envisioning him to play then i really think he wont be starting right out of camp or the saints believe he has to learn on the job and stepping up into the pocket will be huge. So the jimmy trade makes even more sense now. So Zach Strief saying: "Andrus Peat will take my job eventually" The eventually part marks absolute sense. it will take longer for him to learn RT and learn to deal with the speed of the NFL than training him up for LT and sliding Terron over to RT. Do not get me wrong I like the kid. i thought the giants would take him or Collins. At the same time I would not have been shocked to see him on the board when the panthers picked either. due to inconsistencies in his play Talent and size are there but the kid really needs some serious polish work done to his game. I do not see him starting. I see plenty of playing time without a doubt. I am happy with that senior for year 1. years 2 he should be ready to step right in. anything early will be a pleasant surprise. next years draft could be fun to see what the saints pick. OL again? The Peat pick really has me wondering what the overall strategy the saints are using for the future up front. Good points, bad choice of words for me. I think 2015 he is purely gonna play RT, and likely 2016, and play it very very well. Especially if Armstead continues to shine. Willie Roaf started on the right, then moved to left. I think many OT's started on the right before moving to the left. I don't think Armstead is a fit at RT at all. He looks like a LT, has LT feet and LT athleticism. I don't think he'd succeed at RT at all. BUT... as you said, todays NFL is much different. Having a RT with LT skills may be a good idea on a pass happy team like we are. Maybe there's no longer a need for that power blocking RT anymore. And in a zone blocking scheme athleticism plays a much bigger role than power does. So maybe Armstead to RT isn't as bad as I think. Yeah Payton is talking about running more, again. I'll believe that when we see it. No matter how it shakes out, I'm sold that we made the right choice in Peat. Here's my prediction (for 2015) LT-Armstead (Peat IF Armstead gets hurt again) LG-Lelito C-Unger RG-Evans RT-Strief (Peat by mid season, or if Strief gets hurt)

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