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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8222133 Look what they got him for... GOODNESS THATS CHEAP [Edited on 23/2/2005 by papz]...

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Old 02-23-2005, 03:55 PM   #1
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Look what they got him for... GOODNESS THATS CHEAP

[Edited on 23/2/2005 by papz]
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:58 PM   #2
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Damn you beat me to it. I had this cued up.

Posted on Wed, Feb. 23, 2005





Agent: Vikings trade Moss to Raiders

By SEAN JENSEN

Pioneer Press


The Vikings have agreed to trade Randy Moss to the Oakland Raiders for starting linebacker Napoleon Harris, the seventh overall pick in the upcoming draft and a 2005 late-round pick . Trades can be worked out although not announced until next month, and Moss\' agent, Dante DiTrapano, told the Pioneer Press on Wednesday that the deal is done.


\"Nothing is official until March 2,\" DiTrapano said. \"But don’t be surprised if Randy Moss is wearing the Silver and Black this upcoming season.\"


Vikings vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski would only say, \"We\'ve had some discussions with them (the Raiders), but there is nothing to announce.\"


Despite repeated denials, the Vikings have been shopping Moss for months, and they found a willing suitor in Al Davis, a maverick owner who embraces controversial players.


\"In speaking with Moss, although he has a lot of ties to Minnesota and did not particularly want to be traded, he’s very excited with the possibility of playing for Al Davis and being a part of the Raider tradition,\" DiTrapano said. \"The Raiders have vowed to use Randy’s talents the way they should be used, and that’s to throw the ball vertically down the field.


\"Randy’s desire to win a Super Bowl is enhanced with a move to a team like the Raiders, because the Minnesota Vikings seem to be in a constant rebuilding mode.\"

The Vikings will wind up with the seventh overall pick for the third time in the last four years. In 2002, they drafted left tackle Bryant McKinnie, a starter. Two years ago, they had the seventh pick but a botched trade with Baltimore resulted in them picking two spots later. Still, they landed the player they coveted, defensive tackle Kevin Williams, who has emerged into a Pro Bowl player.


The Vikings have the 18th pick in this year’s draft.


With the departure of Moss, the Vikings\' top receiver is third-year receiver Nate Burleson. But the Vikings are expected to bolster that group via the draft or free agency. With a weak free agent class headlined by Pittsburgh\'s Plaxico Burress, the Vikings’ options could increase with potential salary cap casualties such as Isaac Bruce, Muhsin Muhammad and Derrick Mason.


The NFL Draft in April also offers two promising players, Michigan\'s Braylon Edwards and Southern Cal\'s Mike Williams.


Harris was selected by the Raiders with the 23rd pick in the 2002 NFL Draft, and he has recorded 249 tackles, 2.5 sacks, three forced fumbles, and five passes defended over the past three seasons. He is 6-foot-2, 255 pounds, and he can play inside and outside.


The Raiders will assume Moss’ $7.25 million base salary for next season while the Vikings realize a cap savings of nearly $2 million. Four seasons remain on Moss’ eight-year $75 million contract.

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Old 02-23-2005, 03:59 PM   #3
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football talk was reporting it could still happen last night even if moss does not restructure. this sez no first either. can that be right? maybe so cuz of the no restructuring. he is the best but it is a boatload of cap space, not mention the attitude. oughta be fun to watch tho, him on one side and porter the other. talk about norv turner\'s longball game, whew!
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ah ok, yeah, the 7th as reported.
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i think the price is cuz as good as he is he isnt really a great value. should fit right in with the raiders personality history, eh?
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-and we only have to see him every four years now!


[Edited on 23/2/2005 by LKelley67]

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Collins, Moss, Porter, Curry, Gabriel, and Jolley. This will be one of the best passing attacks, second to Indy, in the league next year. Now they can attempt to trade Woodson and draft an allstar running back. Moss was had for pennies.

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Old 02-23-2005, 07:35 PM   #5
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I agree with papz, the Raiders did get him relatively cheap. The number 7 pick in the draft, along with a late rounder, and Napolean Harris. Not too bad of a job by the Raiders. I am a little surprised the Vikings did not get more for him. But, with that being said, I guess the Vikings felt very strong about it being time to move him. Not really a bad year to do it considering the WR talent available. It will be next to impossible for the Vikings to replace that kind of talent, but at least they should be able to find someone to get the job done. They still have a decent WR group still on board, but not a game breaker like Moss. They will also not find another Randy Moss in free agency. I guess it is like any other business. Once your best employee becomes the biggest pain in the butt, it is time to move on.
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This is the NFL\'s version of the Sammy Sosa trade. I am just as big of a fan of the Cubs as I am of the Saints and with that being said I think the Vikings just wanted him gone period just like the Cubs wanted Sosa gone. Sometimes the superstar ego gets in the way of \"Team\" goals and when the superstar thinks that he is above coaches, other players, and even ownership then it is time for him to move on and it also sets the tone for other players that the same can happen to them, simply put NOBODY is irreplaceable. In my opinon I would much rather see Moss in Black & Silver than Black & Gold.
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yes, you do have to factor the pain in the butt-i-me-mine, negative effect on the team but look at the bucks too. it is high rolling when you invest over 10% of your team\'s cap space in one player, no matter how goodhe is- especially a wideout. 4 more years at 9mil+! with the pick they will have a shot at comparitively cheap braylon edwards or mike williams. then with the savings sign a rolle or surtain and still be ahead by millions financially. maybe the vikings have realized that the winners in this league do it with defense and decided to give that a try. i think the same could be said about the saints if not more so. it also reminds of the intense emotional attachment in the \'why trade joe horn?\' thread. it is who can get the most out of the salary cap bucks. i\'d take the leagues leading receiver (derrick mason) with four consecutive 1000 yd yrs for $4.7million (base salary $3.2 million and roster bonus $1.5 million) over moss at 9million anyday. that isnt even beginning to address the attitude and issues aspect. sorry to get on a soapbox but it ain\'t the best players anymore it is bang for the buck.
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1st round pick #7 gator. =braylon edwards or mike williams maybe

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right on saint78. sometimes it isnt even superstar ego but just wanna be star ego that gets in the way of the team.


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One wonders who on the Vikings staff made this decision. I guess Red McCombs is still the owner for now, but the future front office looks cloudier every day. Maybe that new guy trying to buy the team really doesn\'t have the money, after all.

Not to mention, just where in the heck are the Raiders gonna get the money to sign Moss? They\'re in a pretty rotten cap situation, with over $10 million going to Charles Woodson and $8 million to Rich Gannon (both of whom seem to have pretty sketchy futures, at best). Looks like heads may roll in Oakland.

I never expected us to get Moss, but admittedly breathed a sigh of relief when the Raiders nabbed him. I\'m even happier that he\'ll be wiping his arse on some AFC goalposts this year, rather than our beloved NFC\'s.
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