oline problems last two years overshadows this

Euphoria · 02-08-2016, 03:12 PM

I think its pointless talking about anything other than D.

Doesn't matter if we score 50 points a game if we give up 51 we lose. I don't know if you guys have been paying attention but the winners of the SB usually have a top notch D.

QBREES9 · 02-08-2016, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Charlie Brown was a TE that got converted to OT while at USC, I want someone that's been playing Oline for 6-7 years before they make it to the NFL

Same here.

WillSaints81 · 02-08-2016, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I think its pointless talking about anything other than D.

Doesn't matter if we score 50 points a game if we give up 51 we lose. I don't know if you guys have been paying attention but the winners of the SB usually have a top notch D.

Is it a requirement to have Denver's defense to get to a sb? The old saints offense with a top 20 defense is good enough to get to a sb.

The thing I want is road wins, you can't expect Brees alone to shut the home crowd up in the fourth q in a close game if the receivers are not paying attention. I was listening to a podcast from D professor from January and they clarified that the players need to listen to Drew and Sean. The games we have a chance to win next year are SF(look at their home games last year) and KC if the offense can make plays in a likely tight knit defensive game. But are we really hoping for our receivers like Snead and Coleman to make clutch plays against those secondaries in the fourth q and not expect Maclin, Kelce, Treadwell(who SF is targeting), TSmith, all bigger receivers, to make plays because.....Drew Brees is better than those QBs? Their defense is better than ours and will be next year too. I think SD is another one the offense will need to show up because Rivers is not gonna fail to show up in that game and will play with a chip on his shoulder. But I'm expecting that to be a shootout anyway.

The Dude · 02-08-2016, 08:33 PM

Yea I don't get it. That was 3 years ago and has nothing to do with now. And I seem to remember plenty of people *****ing about our line then.

WillSaints81 · 02-08-2016, 10:30 PM

Considering we didn't address anything but the replacement for DLP and drafting Golic, Jr(never panned out) I would say the FO was satisfied with the oline.

Euphoria · 02-09-2016, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Is it a requirement to have Denver's defense to get to a sb? The old saints offense with a top 20 defense is good enough to get to a sb.

The thing I want is road wins, you can't expect Brees alone to shut the home crowd up in the fourth q in a close game if the receivers are not paying attention. I was listening to a podcast from D professor from January and they clarified that the players need to listen to Drew and Sean. The games we have a chance to win next year are SF(look at their home games last year) and KC if the offense can make plays in a likely tight knit defensive game. But are we really hoping for our receivers like Snead and Coleman to make clutch plays against those secondaries in the fourth q and not expect Maclin, Kelce, Treadwell(who SF is targeting), TSmith, all bigger receivers, to make plays because.....Drew Brees is better than those QBs? Their defense is better than ours and will be next year too. I think SD is another one the offense will need to show up because Rivers is not gonna fail to show up in that game and will play with a chip on his shoulder. But I'm expecting that to be a shootout anyway.

I think you are missing the point and the stat. That year was the exception to the rule. Look at all the other teams that have been winning the SB since and even before - top ranked Defenses wins the Championship games.
Even this year look at what the D's done to the offenses - made them pointless.

02-08-2016, 03:12 PM	#11
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this I think its pointless talking about anything other than D. Doesn't matter if we score 50 points a game if we give up 51 we lose. I don't know if you guys have been paying attention but the winners of the SB usually have a top notch D.

02-08-2016, 03:18 PM	#12
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Charlie Brown was a TE that got converted to OT while at USC, I want someone that's been playing Oline for 6-7 years before they make it to the NFL Same here.

02-08-2016, 05:47 PM	#13
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Originally Posted by Euphoria I think its pointless talking about anything other than D. Doesn't matter if we score 50 points a game if we give up 51 we lose. I don't know if you guys have been paying attention but the winners of the SB usually have a top notch D. Is it a requirement to have Denver's defense to get to a sb? The old saints offense with a top 20 defense is good enough to get to a sb. The thing I want is road wins, you can't expect Brees alone to shut the home crowd up in the fourth q in a close game if the receivers are not paying attention. I was listening to a podcast from D professor from January and they clarified that the players need to listen to Drew and Sean. The games we have a chance to win next year are SF(look at their home games last year) and KC if the offense can make plays in a likely tight knit defensive game. But are we really hoping for our receivers like Snead and Coleman to make clutch plays against those secondaries in the fourth q and not expect Maclin, Kelce, Treadwell(who SF is targeting), TSmith, all bigger receivers, to make plays because.....Drew Brees is better than those QBs? Their defense is better than ours and will be next year too. I think SD is another one the offense will need to show up because Rivers is not gonna fail to show up in that game and will play with a chip on his shoulder. But I'm expecting that to be a shootout anyway.

02-08-2016, 08:33 PM	#14
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Yea I don't get it. That was 3 years ago and has nothing to do with now. And I seem to remember plenty of people *****ing about our line then.
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02-08-2016, 10:30 PM	#15
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Considering we didn't address anything but the replacement for DLP and drafting Golic, Jr(never panned out) I would say the FO was satisfied with the oline.

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02-09-2016, 11:24 AM	#16
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: oline problems last two years overshadows this Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Is it a requirement to have Denver's defense to get to a sb? The old saints offense with a top 20 defense is good enough to get to a sb. The thing I want is road wins, you can't expect Brees alone to shut the home crowd up in the fourth q in a close game if the receivers are not paying attention. I was listening to a podcast from D professor from January and they clarified that the players need to listen to Drew and Sean. The games we have a chance to win next year are SF(look at their home games last year) and KC if the offense can make plays in a likely tight knit defensive game. But are we really hoping for our receivers like Snead and Coleman to make clutch plays against those secondaries in the fourth q and not expect Maclin, Kelce, Treadwell(who SF is targeting), TSmith, all bigger receivers, to make plays because.....Drew Brees is better than those QBs? Their defense is better than ours and will be next year too. I think SD is another one the offense will need to show up because Rivers is not gonna fail to show up in that game and will play with a chip on his shoulder. But I'm expecting that to be a shootout anyway. I think you are missing the point and the stat. That year was the exception to the rule. Look at all the other teams that have been winning the SB since and even before - top ranked Defenses wins the Championship games. Even this year look at what the D's done to the offenses - made them pointless.