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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Think the grade is not only the result of who was, wasn't signed, but of the result of cap management as a whole... I'm skeptical of Fleener and his signing, I see it as nothing more than elaborate smoke screen... ...

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Old 04-02-2016, 12:36 PM   #11
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Think the grade is not only the result of who was, wasn't signed, but of the result of cap management as a whole...

I'm skeptical of Fleener and his signing, I see it as nothing more than elaborate smoke screen...

However, excited about signing Laurinaitis and moving Anthony so Stephone can learn and give his athleticism more play-making opportunities...

And the depth signings at linebacker of Stupar and Robertson are being overlooked, underrated right now and will also bear fruit in kicking coverage game...

Now, if Payton is to be believed, moving to scheme so Kikaha, Edebali and Tull rush as JACK LBers reduces strain of hitting more than one D-Linemen in the draft...
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Anthony has stiff competition. It;s going to be a hell of a camp at the lber position. My dark horse is Stuper, he's not going to lay down .He plays nasty reminds me of Ellerbe.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:24 PM   #15
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Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly

Yeah these sites are such "experts". If you didn't sign a big name on day one you did bad. Lets look back and see the grades they gave Philly over the years. How did all the "top" free agents worked out for them.
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Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly

Here is a bit of a reply I made on a Falcons' site that said we were handcuffed by our cap and had to "settle for" minor free agents, no big splashes. My point being, what was out there that was better?

Name bigger splashes out there in free agency that the Saints couldn't get? Defensive line and LB were the two areas most in need for the Saints. And given the Saints will once again have a top five offense, all they need is an average defense to contend. Moving Kikaha to DE, where he played and excelled at in college, and adding Fairley to the inside will prove to be a solid improvement. Lauriniatis gives the Saints a true field general in the middle and allows Anthony to concentrate solely on doing his job.

Fairley was the top rated DT in free agency. That isn't a splash? Lauriniatis was the top rated MLB and the second rated ILB in the FA market. Not a splash? Fleener was the second rated TE in the FA market behind Antonio Gates and everyone knew Gates was re-upping with SD. Not a splash? Bigger splashes did not exist at the positions needed by the Saints. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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Meh, shored up the LB corps, got a potential pass rush going, addressed discrepancies & didn't go out in left field ... that says "C", "C+" all day long, IMO ... satisfactory/acceptable achievement on a standard grading scale, #shrug.

I think the Laurinaitis signing works out like Sean Hill (DAL) or Luke Keuchly (CAR) for you guys ... just a hunch, which in turn motivates the rest of the D and they get rollin', .
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Re-signed: FB Austin Johnson, CB Kyle Wilson, G Senio Kelemete, TEMichael Hoomanawanui, K Kai Forbath, RB Travaris Cadet, QB Luke McCown, S Jamarca Sanford, TE Josh Hill
Signed: TE Coby Fleener, LB Nathan Stupar, LB James Laurinaitis, LB Craig Robertson, DT Nick Fairley, K Josh Scobee, Nick Fairley
Lost/cut: S Rafael Bush, TE Benjamin Watson, G Jahri Evans, LB David Hawthorne, LB Ramon Humber, WR Seantavius Jones, WR Marques Colston, CB Brandon Browner, RB Khiry Robinson

If you look at what we lost and gained I think that the front office did very good maybe a B- and here's why:

Linebackers - we lost Humber and Hawthorne but gained Lauranitis, Stupar and Robertson. Good trade off in my opinion.

TE - we lost Watson but gained Fleenor and re-signed Hoomanawanui and retained Hill. GREAT in my opinion.

RB - we lost Robinson but re-signed Cadet and are talking to Hightower about re-signing and that will be a GREAT win in my opinion. We will sign Hightower.

WR - we lost Colston and Jones who but Cooks, Snead and Coleman are ready to take over. We could use someone like Boldin that's not afraid to go over the middle. Good move in my opinion. We will get another receiver like Colston before the season starts. Look for it in the later rounds of the draft. Coach is good at picking gems in the late rounds.

CB - we lost Browner. What loss? He was Browner than burnt toast! We re-signed Wilson and will get 1 or 2 more in the draft. Good in my opinion.

S - we lost Bush but re-signed Sanford and signed Eric Dixon. Good trade in my opinion. We will get one more before the season starts. Nelson or Whitener since his release from Cleveland would both be great additions.

Kicker - we signed Scobee and he will replace Forbath for sure. Great move in my opinion.

Guard - we lost Evans but re-signed Clemente and will move Peat to LG and this position will be addressed in the draft probably 3rd round. Below Average in my opinion.

FB - retaining Austin is a win.

QB - we re-signed McCown and will eventually restructure Drew to free up a lot more cap space. Good in my opinion.

Defensive Line - we signed Fairley which is a fairly decent move but still need to address the Defensive Line and we will with Jarran Reed or A'Shaun in the first and a hulk of a DT or stand up DE in the 2nd. We will get either Shaq Lawson from Clemson or Calhoun from Michigan State. If Billings from Baylor falls to us in the 2nd, Correa DE/OLB Boise State or Howard CB Baylor we will grab one. Good in my opinion.

and guys and gals we still have 3.3 million in cap space with Drew's restructure left. GREAT IN MY OPINION.

B- is my final offer!
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Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly

How can the guy say the acquisitions grades poorly without even seeing them suit up as a Saint yet?

Agreed with CheramieIII

If we signed Anquan Boldin and had a solid draft, picking up a RG, WR and then draft heavy defense I'd be very happy.
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