Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly

K Major · 04-04-2016, 10:13 PM

I'll save you a lot of time and math on the Scooby Doo debate ...

Draft a kicker.

st thomas · 04-04-2016, 10:20 PM

bravo danno, bravoooooooe.

WillSaints81 · 04-05-2016, 04:53 PM

What did Danno do? I don't see a post in the last page.

Danno · 04-05-2016, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

What did Danno do? I don't see a post in the last page.

I think it was probably for my overall astute awareness of all things related to Saints football along with my generally charming personality and smashing good looks.

Or maybe it was one of my 2 posts earlier in this thread.

jeanpierre · 04-06-2016, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I'd give it a C-minus at this point in time. That's based mainly on what they failed to do instead of what they actually did. Getting Fleener (overpay), Fairley (1-year stop gap), and Lauranaitis could end up as good moves. But not addressing this team's most serious holes (DE, DT, Safety, OG) is a head scratcher. Loomis has crippled this franchise with a series of terrible FA signings, unwise extensions, and poor results in the draft. Leading the league in dead money is not a good thing. Let's hope we do better in the 2016 draft.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In slamming Loomis you are giving him FAR too much credit. Loomis' main job is to make the money work. You are terribly mistaken if you blame personnel moves on him.

From New Orleans Saints | Staff

Football Operations
Mickey Loomis Executive Vice President/General Manager

Yeah, can't understand why fans would be confused?!?

jeanpierre · 04-06-2016, 12:54 AM

PFF must have a real large staff because the other side of the building didn't get the lead story of this thread...

ProFootball Focus: 5 BARGAIN FREE-AGENT SIGNINGS THAT WILL MAKE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT

1. Nick Fairley, DT, New Orleans Saints
Nick Fairley has had the luxury of playing beside two of the most dominant defensive tackles in the NFL since being drafted in the first round of the 2011 draft. His first four years in Detroit were alongside Ndamukong Suh, while his 2015 campaign was spent in St. Louis with Dwight Stephenson Award-winner Aaron Donald.

Consistently a productive player, it’s fair to wonder why Fairley struggles to land a multi-year contract in the prime of his career (he also signed a one-year deal in 2015).

As a Ram in 2015, Fairley recorded the 11th-highest overall grade among DT/NTs. Despite this, he found his market rather dry and settled for a one-year, $3 million contract in New Orleans.

The Saints ranked 31st in the league in run defense in 2015 (129.8 yards per game allowed), and last in yards per carry allowed (4.9). Fairley seems like an ideal fit in the middle of a defense that has been gashed time and time again in a division with three other teams who run the ball well.

SloMotion · 04-06-2016, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think it was probably for my overall astute awareness of all things related to Saints football along with my generally charming personality and smashing good looks.

Or maybe it was one of my 2 posts earlier in this thread.

Nah, pretty sure it's the "underboob" in your avatar,

.

TheDeuce · 04-17-2016, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We did address DT and why do you think we have a serious hole at safety?

I'm not sold on Fairley... coming off back-to-back sub-par years I'm not getting too excited yet. Maybe he'll prove me wrong and come out hungry because he's on a one-year deal, but it looks like a pretty underwhelming move IMO and doesn't upgrade the unit.

Loomis & co. gave Byrd a monster contract that he's not even come close to living up to (not only has he been hurt, for a guy billed as a ballhawk, he's got one INT to his name in black and gold). Our cap numbers are so out of whack again, that we let Bush leave town, and we didn't have enough to sign anybody else. So yeah, I'm worried that we've got Byrd who is injury prone and virtually no depth.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In slamming Loomis you are giving him FAR too much credit. Loomis' main job is to make the money work. You are terribly mistaken if you blame personnel moves on him.

Perhaps I am, but the buck stops with the GM, he's ultimately responsible for how the roster looks. And if his main job is to make the money work, he gets an F- from me the last few seasons for how poorly he's done that job. Again, having the most dead money in the league is squarely on Loomis.

Again, I hope they prove me wrong, but I just don't see a lot of upgrades to our roster from last year.

UK_WhoDat · 04-17-2016, 02:49 PM

Graded (initially) the worst by 3 media. We will see.

I bet the season will show otherwise.

Danno · 04-17-2016, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Again, I hope they prove me wrong, but I just don't see a lot of upgrades to our roster from last year.

Seriously? We've upgraded several spots, and the draft isn't here yet. Our LBs are much improved even if we draft any.

04-04-2016, 10:13 PM	#41
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly I'll save you a lot of time and math on the Scooby Doo debate ... Draft a kicker.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly bravo danno, bravoooooooe.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly What did Danno do? I don't see a post in the last page.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by WillSaints81 What did Danno do? I don't see a post in the last page. I think it was probably for my overall astute awareness of all things related to Saints football along with my generally charming personality and smashing good looks. Or maybe it was one of my 2 posts earlier in this thread. Rugby Saint II and CharityMike like this.

04-06-2016, 12:47 AM	#45
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by TheDeuce I'd give it a C-minus at this point in time. That's based mainly on what they failed to do instead of what they actually did. Getting Fleener (overpay), Fairley (1-year stop gap), and Lauranaitis could end up as good moves. But not addressing this team's most serious holes (DE, DT, Safety, OG) is a head scratcher. Loomis has crippled this franchise with a series of terrible FA signings, unwise extensions, and poor results in the draft. Leading the league in dead money is not a good thing. Let's hope we do better in the 2016 draft. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In slamming Loomis you are giving him FAR too much credit. Loomis' main job is to make the money work. You are terribly mistaken if you blame personnel moves on him. From New Orleans Saints \| Staff Football Operations Mickey Loomis Executive Vice President/General Manager Yeah, can't understand why fans would be confused?!?

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04-06-2016, 12:54 AM	#46
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04-06-2016, 03:58 AM	#47
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by Danno I think it was probably for my overall astute awareness of all things related to Saints football along with my generally charming personality and smashing good looks. Or maybe it was one of my 2 posts earlier in this thread. Nah, pretty sure it's the "underboob" in your avatar, . SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and frydaddy like this.

04-17-2016, 01:48 PM	#48
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by Danno We did address DT and why do you think we have a serious hole at safety? I'm not sold on Fairley... coming off back-to-back sub-par years I'm not getting too excited yet. Maybe he'll prove me wrong and come out hungry because he's on a one-year deal, but it looks like a pretty underwhelming move IMO and doesn't upgrade the unit. Loomis & co. gave Byrd a monster contract that he's not even come close to living up to (not only has he been hurt, for a guy billed as a ballhawk, he's got one INT to his name in black and gold). Our cap numbers are so out of whack again, that we let Bush leave town, and we didn't have enough to sign anybody else. So yeah, I'm worried that we've got Byrd who is injury prone and virtually no depth. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In slamming Loomis you are giving him FAR too much credit. Loomis' main job is to make the money work. You are terribly mistaken if you blame personnel moves on him. Perhaps I am, but the buck stops with the GM, he's ultimately responsible for how the roster looks. And if his main job is to make the money work, he gets an F- from me the last few seasons for how poorly he's done that job. Again, having the most dead money in the league is squarely on Loomis. Again, I hope they prove me wrong, but I just don't see a lot of upgrades to our roster from last year.
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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Graded (initially) the worst by 3 media. We will see. I bet the season will show otherwise.

04-17-2016, 07:25 PM	#50
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by TheDeuce Again, I hope they prove me wrong, but I just don't see a lot of upgrades to our roster from last year. Seriously? We've upgraded several spots, and the draft isn't here yet. Our LBs are much improved even if we draft any.

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