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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the OP, but I really think this post is nonsense! Although some of you may not agree with me, SP plays to win every game. I've never seen him hold back. Plus have ...

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Old 04-20-2016, 06:04 PM   #21
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I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the OP, but I really think this post is nonsense! Although some of you may not agree with me, SP plays to win every game. I've never seen him hold back. Plus have you ever seen Drew Brees give up? Never! They don't care how far behind they are. They're always fighting. It's the defensive side of the ball that has let us down and that has given up and some games. But that's not holding back, that's just terrible defense. Add to the fact that our window is closing with Drew Brees, there's no way that Peyton would hold anything back. He's in a win-now situation and he knows it

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Old 04-20-2016, 06:07 PM   #22
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Take a couple of days off WillSaints81... You need a break.
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Old 04-21-2016, 09:28 AM   #23
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I think OP is overthinking it and I don't think Sean is holding back. This is a win-now league, that would be really stupid. Perhaps Sean hit a creative slump or has been distracted. Hope this year he gets that spark back or he could lose this team - figuratively and/or literally.
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Old 04-21-2016, 12:14 PM   #24
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I've criticized Payton's redundant play calling over the last couple of years, but to suggest that he's basically sandbagging is.... less than credible.

If he wants to get back at Goodell (who doesn't?) then wouldn't he want to win even more? In what way does holding back now, to win later, help? That doesn't make him look good. So it makes no sense, period.
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I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the OP, but I really think this post is nonsense! Although some of you may not agree with me, SP plays to win every game. I've never seen him hold back. Plus have you ever seen Drew Brees give up? Never! They don't care how far behind they are. They're always fighting. It's the defensive side of the ball that has let us down and that has given up and some games. But that's not holding back, that's just terrible defense. Add to the fact that our window is closing with Drew Brees, there's no way that Peyton would hold anything back. He's in a win-now situation and he knows it

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I never said he did not play to win. Just that he might have made it harder. He wanted the players to play hard. I remember last offseason it seemed the motto was for the receivers to fight for the ball. That certainly was a test this year and a good bit of it failed.
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Old 04-22-2016, 08:45 PM   #26
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I never said he did not play to win. Just that he might have made it harder. He wanted the players to play hard. I remember last offseason it seemed the motto was for the receivers to fight for the ball. That certainly was a test this year and a good bit of it failed.
no offense, but this is absurd. there is not a coach in the nfl that says lets make it harder to win. it is hard enough.
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Old 04-22-2016, 08:49 PM   #27
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Payton sandbag?!? No way?!? Could have done it the past two seasons and really secured a better slot in the draft?!?

Now he'll play ya some mean possum, but never sandbag...
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Old 04-23-2016, 01:50 AM   #28
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Goodell has his zebras all over turning the tide in Saints games or Carolina games (2013 rob of the Patriots)

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Old 04-24-2016, 10:55 AM   #30
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Its your choice if you don't want to believe it but it's like this serious version of Payton to not play his hand unless everything is going right. That's not farfetched.
The Saints from last year couldve snuck into the playoffs if a handful of plays went the other way. I know Payton tried to win at least early in the season.
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