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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, I'm not going to say that I'm the biggest Mike Florio fan, but he is one of the few in the media that didn't rush to judgement re: the Bountygate Beatdown... In fact, he has ...

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Old 04-25-2016, 07:40 AM   #51
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Well, I'm not going to say that I'm the biggest Mike Florio fan, but he is one of the few in the media that didn't rush to judgement re: the Bountygate Beatdown...

In fact, he has continued to reference it and pretty much called bullshinski on what Goodell did and how he did it; he still references it, not allowing it to die...

That said, I feel his article re: what's happened is timely and his analysis re: Brees and Tom Condon and their motives for leaking his willingness is dead on...

Among his valid points - if Brees was so interested in signing an team-first, accommodating contract, why did he not leak that or state that publicly before free agency began...

Or even last season when a left guard Clint Boling was available at a reasonable salary...

And don't think it doesn't affect the locker room - Junior Galette's tweet to Josh Norman of the Jimmy John's delivery car was a veiled suggestion to some of the resentment, valid or invalid, but very real toward's the Brees/Condon contract that limited the Saints in retaining players and acquiring needed fresh troops via free agency...

And for Florio, who has amassed a very credible media reputation to publish such a column, you can bet he verified there's definitely fire from this smoke...
So it is Brees' fault the team has so much cap tied up in players that are gone, i.e. Gallette, Browner, Graham, or players that haven't produced, i.e. Byrd?

Brees is in a no win situation: If he says up front he will re-structure to bring in a player, he will get slammed for ringing his own bell.

If he doesn't say anything publicly but the Saints know he will re-structure and for whatever reason can't get the deal done he will get slammed for being greedy.
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:17 AM   #52
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

Brees's contract is not the issue. Poor contracts to players with way too much guaranteed...We have as much as Drew's contract sitting in frigan dead money. Poor drafts coupled with terrible player decisions and dead money is the issue.

Every QB in the NFL makes large sums of money now. Even **** sandwich qb's
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:21 AM   #53
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

Brees is about Brees. I understand it. I don't blame him. I'm not saying he's wrong. But, at any point, if he wanted to take a cap friendly deal, he would have done so already. If he wants to blame that on the front office in relation to how they've spent Mr. Benson's money, he's being conveniently disingenuous. Not completely incorrect but totally self-serving.
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Old 04-25-2016, 09:24 AM   #54
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He took a cap friendly deal when the contract started thats why the hit is what it is now. The team decided to back loaded it and save money early. Its not like he asked for a increase,he is still being paid $20ml a year we just asked him to take the money late
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Junior may be the only person in the world I really wish serious harm upon... and there are plenty of people who I don't much care for. That a**hole though.. if he stepped out into traffic and got smashed into pieces I would probably laugh.
Has Junior played a down since we cut him?
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Has Junior played a down since we cut him?
I think the one he got hurt on, in practice lol. Torn Achilles, right? That's generally the type of injury tHat keeps on giving. I honestly wonder how quickly he'll pull that bad boy again?
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Has Junior played a down since we cut him?
I hear he said this year he plans to buckle down and belt out extra reps during off-season work-outs.
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:32 AM   #58
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I hear he said this year he plans to buckle down and belt out extra reps during off-season work-outs.
Problem number one was giving him enough money to buy a belt.
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:42 AM   #59
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Because I'm a Brees fan first and want him to get another ring before he's done, regardless of where he's at.
You are a fan of a player over the team?
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So it is Brees' fault the team has so much cap tied up in players that are gone, i.e. Gallette, Browner, Graham, or players that haven't produced, i.e. Byrd?

Brees is in a no win situation: If he says up front he will re-structure to bring in a player, he will get slammed for ringing his own bell.

If he doesn't say anything publicly but the Saints know he will re-structure and for whatever reason can't get the deal done he will get slammed for being greedy.
Exactly. Brees didn't make big money deals with players who haven't panned out. We wouldn't be having this conversation at all if the Jr situation hadn't happened. All teams have players or two with huge contracts. It can be done.
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