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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; As it was said by Collinsworth last year, when it's your year it's your year. The offense looks good one game, defense the next. Thing is, we are 0-2 because of bad luck. Bad luck follows teams around to help ...

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Old 09-19-2016, 01:09 AM   #1
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There's still hope but the reality is

As it was said by Collinsworth last year, when it's your year it's your year. The offense looks good one game, defense the next. Thing is, we are 0-2 because of bad luck. Bad luck follows teams around to help other teams. So far bad luck has bitten Minnesota who's 2-0 start is going to diminish at some point. They simply do not have what it takes to be able to contend with AP missing time. This injury was to continue the rotation trend in the north of who gets to contend with GB each season, which it is Chicago's turn. Bad luck has bitten us and it's to help Carolina. Bad luck bites teams in the AFC East every year. Bad luck is biting the colts to help Watt and Clowney. And already bad luck bites Dallas to help whoever's turn it is to win the east. If we are not simply meant to win, we won't.

We did make some questionable offensive calls but this game was close to winnable despite that. Those questionable calls were having Coleman cut into Thomas and Snead's volume knowing he himself needs volume. But that's the way the cookie crumbles. Payton is not going to win another kind of way, this is the type of offense we relied on in the past. It sucks, but if we tried to play a certain way then we could have injuries happen to more important players on offense.

We just simply have to be patient and if things don't go the way we want, hope that the competition loses.
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Old 09-19-2016, 03:28 AM   #2
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0-2 for 3 straight seasons isn't bad luck in my opinion, it's all on Sean Payton

The injuries we have suffered are definitely bad luck, 6 CB's injured and we are only in week 2 of the season.

However, Payton does not get this team ready and we lose because of it.

Look at the blocked field goal, fundamentals went out the window and that one play could have been the difference between winning and losing. The fact is great teams make those plays and we do not, we have not made those plays ever since 2013 when we squandered a lead against the Patriots.

Payton is ruining this team, if it's true about Stephone Anthony, I don't blame him for being upset about the Laurinitus signing, Anthony is ten times the player Laurinitus is.

It's just one thing after another every season, if it isnt injuries, then its the D, when the defense starts playing well, the offense becomes completely inept and throws the ball 44 times in a 3 point game.

Why are we trusting Fleener, Cadet and Coleman with the game on the line, none of them deserve a roster spot, our roster is weak and that's why we are 0-2.

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Old 09-19-2016, 03:47 AM   #3
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Also the Falcons beat the Raiders, so the Falcons made the plays they needed and we haven't.

The falcons scored 35 points on the Raiders so our offensive output last week looks to be nothing special against the Raiders D.
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:08 AM   #4
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Minnesota has a consistently good defense so when bad s**t happens they can still hang in there and get it done. That is why they are 2-0.

Winning teams always have a hunger and an attitude about them. They turn lemons into lemonade.
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:56 AM   #5
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For all you stat worshipers (per PFF):

Manning dropped back 44 times.

1) 36 - no pressure
2) 8 - pressure
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:02 AM   #6
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Bad luck can lose you A game
But after that bad luck only affects bad teams
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As it stands right now, the Saints just aren't a very deep team overall. Yes, the starters can hang in there, but once people need to be rotated or replaced due to injury, the Saints roster isn't deep enough to overcome. Some of it is coaching, most of it bad personnel decisions. Simply cannot build a deep team when draft picks flame out and free agents don't pan out.
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Patriots are getting it done despite no Brady and lots of injuries to include secondary. I don't know, we are still in these games. Even if we were 2-0 though still would not look that great.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:48 AM   #9
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This has NOTING to do with Bad luck it has to do with setting a winning culture in the preseason.

I know a lot of fools like to think Pre-season means nothing but that is where you build your team and the culture of winning. We also can't go into season thinking we just need role players and not worry about the Oline and Dline. The teams that are getting better are the teams that have been working on building the lines. Even Manning wasn't the reason the Bronco's won the SB.
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Old 09-19-2016, 03:01 PM   #10
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think about all the players we missed on defensively, could've had Anthony & Eric Kendrick but drafted Kikaha Marcus Peters, Alec Ogletree Jonathan Cassias excuse my typos Jamie Collins Matt Judon The Honeybadger even Josh Norman we could've drafted we have bad draft choices on the defensive side of the ball
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