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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Brees' amazing plays was the head storyline as it should, but there were five takeaways from this game that stood out for me... One...Coby Fleener made clutch receptions... ...I have been his been one of his biggest critics here in ...

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Old 10-17-2016, 08:16 AM   #1
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Five Takeaways From the Game...

Brees' amazing plays was the head storyline as it should, but there were five takeaways from this game that stood out for me...

One...Coby Fleener made clutch receptions...

...I have been his been one of his biggest critics here in our community, but since the haircut, he's really started to play hard and make some tough catches...

...now, it's still real early, but hopefully this is a game that he starts to build on and continues the great play...

Two...Again, on offense, but Can't Guard Mike Thomas has become our No. 1 receiver and now leads the team in receptions; that's a rookie leading the team in receptions...

...with Snead working the slot, underneath routes and Cooks the most dangerous vertical threat, sleepless nights for the other kids...

Three...Cam Jordan is underwhelming when you factor his contract number and even uglier is Jordan in space trying to contain his side of the field, much less bring pressure...

...Jordan wasn't going against the best pass protectors and got punked by Cam Jordan on a few plays, Edebali, a backup, outplayed him...

Four...Drew Brees will have to be his own pass protections because injuries and neglecting development of the offensive line has created some real problems up front and will be the priority in the offseason...

...Brees just thought he was punched in the mouth, don't want to think about facing the Seahawks who'll hold and PI our receivers without penalty...

Five...Great, great game by Kasim Edebali who showed up in a big way and played the run much better than previous games (though he did have some gaffes as well); really took advantage of the Panthers' backup O-line...

...Dennis Allen seems to have given up on this guy before he even took over, but Kasim has consistently graded our best pass rusher (PFF) all season...

Worth mentioning is that we finally got to see Daniel Lasco on a few plays and the rookie who fell to us in the seventh round looks like a good fit to our offense; maybe it lights a fire under Marcus Murphy (our Darren Sproles proxy)...

What were yours?
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Old 10-17-2016, 08:24 AM   #2
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Re: Five Takeaways From the Game...

Our DB's need to learn to turn their heads around.

On the 2pt conversion, Funchess runs along the goal line, you are taught to guard the goal line. If BW Webb simply turned and located the ball he could have had a 99 yard pick six, but he stared down Funchess and just gave him a push through the end zone.

Agreed about Michael Thomas, I've been saying for weeks that despite his slim frame, the guy is powerful and fights for extra yards. He is a model of consistency already and will only get better.

I'll have to re-watch the game to see Lasco as I missed the first quarter, but in the San Diego game he had some nice runs, he could push Ingram for carries eventually.

Coby Fleener has really played well the past few weeks.

Sean Payton won both challenges!!

The league really needs to take a look at their refs, Kenny had great coverage against olsen, turned round and located the ball and batted it down then got flagged. Its unreal!
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:43 AM   #3
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Fleener is coming around but he did have a couple of drops he should have caught.

Clean up some of the penalties that would be a huge plus. A couple of the Pass interfernce calls were complete BS but some were legit. I don't fault them because well they wouldn't be on the roster if not for the injuries. More concerned with the O line penalties.

- Showed we could stop the run FINALLY. They were able to contain the run the whole game. I don't care about half a game the game to stop the run you have to be consistant. Stopping the run for a half the game you just got lucky.

I like seeing the development in our younger players keep growing week to week which is great. Give us another year or 2 we could make another run at a SB. It's going to come down to defending the pass.

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Old 10-17-2016, 09:43 AM   #4
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Re: Five Takeaways From the Game...

O-line is decent as a whole considering the material we have to work with. Sure hope Peats injury isn't anything serious and that Armstead gets back Quick.

Aaron Glenn is the Saints coach of the year. He is just squeezing everything he can out of the Young guys and they are Learning on the fly.

Ken Crawley will be good for us in the future. He is raw and still makes mistakes but is getting better while facing stiff competition. I'd like to see him add 10lbs of muscle in the offseason thou.
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Old 10-17-2016, 10:21 AM   #5
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Re: Five Takeaways From the Game...

Losing Sterling Moore & having to play Brian Dixon sure didn't help. BJ Webb had good moments. Morstead is in Pro Bowl form. Michael Thomas is open even when he's covered & my man Nick F is still disruptive in the middle & lastly LUTZ is a keeper.

Side note : The refs were bad. There is no consistency. Not just in the dome but across the league. The "suits" need to have a long discussion about this and the way PI are called this off season.

The flag thrown on Kenny V was ridiculous.
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Re: Five Takeaways From the Game...

We have players that can make plays but we neglect them often to get uninspiring players involved. I would not use Hill or Cadet unless in the redzone.
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
We have players that can make plays but we neglect them often to get uninspiring players involved. I would not use Hill or Cadet unless in the redzone.
Thought Cadet was pretty clutch on that last minute drive...
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Old 10-17-2016, 11:42 AM   #9
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Re: Five Takeaways From the Game...

1. Great start. Both sides of the ball.

2. Special teams didn't eff it up.

3. Fleener showed up.

4. Kicker was a strength.

5. Concerned about self-fulfilling prophecies. Seems like they constantly preaching "it's going to go down to the wire," and inevitably they make sure it happens. You can even see it in the play calling. When you're up 21 points, you don't keep lining up in shotgun, throwing passes, and going out of bounds. You methodically put together long, demoralizing drives to eat up time. VERY CONCERNED about this, but honestly it's not a new issue.

Happy with a win against Carolina for sure!
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Old 10-17-2016, 11:49 AM   #10
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My only takeaway: NFL games are won and lost by the refs. Period.
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