Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency

ScottF · 02-13-2017, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don't blame him... This could be his last significant contract. He seems to have conquered his demons and I think he's proven himself. If we lowball him then shame on us. He should be able to get between $6-9 million/year.

I really don't see that happening. That is top 10 money, and 43 tackles doesn't make top 10. We helped him, he helped us, but...
If we pay more than $5 million then we have overpaid yet again on an only above average D-lineman.

jeanpierre · 02-13-2017, 11:43 AM

Let him and his agent set the market and come back with some numbers...

If he truly wants to be here, he'll sign and give as much as a 10% hometown discount...

Problem is that we now have Rankins and Onyemata, unless Ony moves to DE...

Even then, do you want to commit that kind of money to a guy who'll be on limited snaps, a situational player?

Davison is a beast for us at the Nose, and we've got two FA futures who are more than capable of backing him up...

And then we have the draft coming as well...

K Major · 02-13-2017, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Let him and his agent set the market and come back with some numbers...

If he truly wants to be here, he'll sign and give as much as a 10% hometown discount...

Offer him a fair deal and don't overpay, sure. But don't fool yourself. Nick is past having to accept a hometown discount type contract.

ScottF · 02-13-2017, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Offer him a fair deal and don't overpay, sure. But don't fool yourself. Nick is past having to accept a hometown discount type contract.

but, he has hinted that he would take one Nick Fairley 'of course' wants to re-sign with Saints | NOLA.com .
Will he turn down $6.5 if the Saints offer $4.5? Of course not.
But Seattle is a hell of a lot farther from Mobile than NOLA is, and it might save us half a million.

The guy has made some money over his career, so the "last big contract" thing might be overblown.

triman · 02-13-2017, 11:30 PM

I would offer him a two yr deal at fair value 1yr guarantee no more. If he walks Cie La Vie.

voodooido · 02-14-2017, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I don't blame him... This could be his last significant contract. He seems to have conquered his demons and I think he's proven himself. If we lowball him then shame on us. He should be able to get between $6-9 million/year.

If he wants 6-9 a year let him walk. No way he is worth that. One year does not warrant that much of a jump. 3 yr 15 million at the most.

Crusader · 02-14-2017, 01:50 AM

I very much want him back, he has had the best pass rush production from an interior lineman for the Saints since forever. But the price needs to be right. No more than 5-6 mil/year.

K Major · 02-14-2017, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

If he wants 6-9 a year let him walk. No way he is worth that. One year does not warrant that much of a jump. 3 yr 15 million at the most.

Hear me on this one ...

The past two years have been Nick's first opportunities to shine out right. He flashed in Motown (Detroit). At least I thought so. One could argue that this past season in NO was his first true shot, because the Rams are loaded with defensive talent. In LA/Stl, Donald is the future at 3 tech, so NF wasn't going to get a load of production there either.

I want to bring Fairley back, but it's a tricky situation. He may not like the idea of a very heavy incentive contract considering this could be his "big" signing. As far as will he play as great as he previously, I've seen nothing that would believe me to think he will pull a Haynesworth on us.

Nick has played great for us. Our defense has been perennially bad. Even if we are somewhat "loaded" at DT with Rankins, Davison etc, having solid rotation on the front four allows us to blitz less & slow down offenses with more bodies in the back seven. The guy has been in the league for a few years and knows how to be a Pro, is on a hometown team & knows he has a legitimate shot to win a ring with Brees and company.

The market in the NFL is what matters. Flame away

.

Beastmode · 02-14-2017, 08:52 AM

Certainly hard to find a good DT these days or one that can play within the Disney rules. Back in the day swiping a QB in the head was par for the course.

If he warranted constant double teams that would be the only way. He does not so he will be home shopping.

ScottF · 02-14-2017, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Hear me on this one ...

The past two years have been Nick's first opportunities to shine out right. He flashed in Motown (Detroit). At least I thought so. One could argue that this past season in NO was his first true shot, because the Rams are loaded with defensive talent. In LA/Stl, Donald is the future at 3 tech, so NF wasn't going to get a load of production there either.

I want to bring Fairley back, but it's a tricky situation. He may not like the idea of a very heavy incentive contract considering this could be his "big" signing. As far as will he play as great as he previously, I've seen nothing that would believe me to think he will pull a Haynesworth on us.

Nick has played great for us. Our defense has been perennially bad. Even if we are somewhat "loaded" at DT with Rankins, Davison etc, having solid rotation on the front four allows us to blitz less & slow down offenses with more bodies in the back seven. The guy has been in the league for a few years and knows how to be a Pro, is on a hometown team & knows he has a legitimate shot to win a ring with Brees and company.

The market in the NFL is what matters. Flame away .

I don't think we are loaded at all, so if Fairley goes, we need to spend the 4-5 million on a replacement.
I think he played well, but that he is just not a top 12 DT. Some team might think he is worth $6 million, but I personally don't

02-13-2017, 11:40 AM	#11
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don't blame him... This could be his last significant contract. He seems to have conquered his demons and I think he's proven himself. If we lowball him then shame on us. He should be able to get between $6-9 million/year. I really don't see that happening. That is top 10 money, and 43 tackles doesn't make top 10. We helped him, he helped us, but... If we pay more than $5 million then we have overpaid yet again on an only above average D-lineman. Beastmode and Kryptonite like this.

02-13-2017, 11:43 AM	#12
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency Let him and his agent set the market and come back with some numbers... If he truly wants to be here, he'll sign and give as much as a 10% hometown discount... Problem is that we now have Rankins and Onyemata, unless Ony moves to DE... Even then, do you want to commit that kind of money to a guy who'll be on limited snaps, a situational player? Davison is a beast for us at the Nose, and we've got two FA futures who are more than capable of backing him up... And then we have the draft coming as well...
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency Originally Posted by jeanpierre Let him and his agent set the market and come back with some numbers... If he truly wants to be here, he'll sign and give as much as a 10% hometown discount... Offer him a fair deal and don't overpay, sure. But don't fool yourself. Nick is past having to accept a hometown discount type contract.

02-13-2017, 12:02 PM	#14
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency Originally Posted by K Major Offer him a fair deal and don't overpay, sure. But don't fool yourself. Nick is past having to accept a hometown discount type contract. but, he has hinted that he would take one Nick Fairley 'of course' wants to re-sign with Saints \| NOLA.com . Will he turn down $6.5 if the Saints offer $4.5? Of course not. But Seattle is a hell of a lot farther from Mobile than NOLA is, and it might save us half a million. The guy has made some money over his career, so the "last big contract" thing might be overblown.

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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,744	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don't blame him... This could be his last significant contract. He seems to have conquered his demons and I think he's proven himself. If we lowball him then shame on us. He should be able to get between $6-9 million/year. If he wants 6-9 a year let him walk. No way he is worth that. One year does not warrant that much of a jump. 3 yr 15 million at the most.
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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 7,986	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency I very much want him back, he has had the best pass rush production from an interior lineman for the Saints since forever. But the price needs to be right. No more than 5-6 mil/year.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,051 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency Originally Posted by voodooido If he wants 6-9 a year let him walk. No way he is worth that. One year does not warrant that much of a jump. 3 yr 15 million at the most. Hear me on this one ... The past two years have been Nick's first opportunities to shine out right. He flashed in Motown (Detroit). At least I thought so. One could argue that this past season in NO was his first true shot, because the Rams are loaded with defensive talent. In LA/Stl, Donald is the future at 3 tech, so NF wasn't going to get a load of production there either. I want to bring Fairley back, but it's a tricky situation. He may not like the idea of a very heavy incentive contract considering this could be his "big" signing. As far as will he play as great as he previously, I've seen nothing that would believe me to think he will pull a Haynesworth on us. Nick has played great for us. Our defense has been perennially bad. Even if we are somewhat "loaded" at DT with Rankins, Davison etc, having solid rotation on the front four allows us to blitz less & slow down offenses with more bodies in the back seven. The guy has been in the league for a few years and knows how to be a Pro, is on a hometown team & knows he has a legitimate shot to win a ring with Brees and company. The market in the NFL is what matters. Flame away . ChrisXVI likes this.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency Certainly hard to find a good DT these days or one that can play within the Disney rules. Back in the day swiping a QB in the head was par for the course. If he warranted constant double teams that would be the only way. He does not so he will be home shopping.
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02-14-2017, 09:43 AM	#20
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Nick Fairley expected to test Free Agency Originally Posted by K Major Hear me on this one ... The past two years have been Nick's first opportunities to shine out right. He flashed in Motown (Detroit). At least I thought so. One could argue that this past season in NO was his first true shot, because the Rams are loaded with defensive talent. In LA/Stl, Donald is the future at 3 tech, so NF wasn't going to get a load of production there either. I want to bring Fairley back, but it's a tricky situation. He may not like the idea of a very heavy incentive contract considering this could be his "big" signing. As far as will he play as great as he previously, I've seen nothing that would believe me to think he will pull a Haynesworth on us. Nick has played great for us. Our defense has been perennially bad. Even if we are somewhat "loaded" at DT with Rankins, Davison etc, having solid rotation on the front four allows us to blitz less & slow down offenses with more bodies in the back seven. The guy has been in the league for a few years and knows how to be a Pro, is on a hometown team & knows he has a legitimate shot to win a ring with Brees and company. The market in the NFL is what matters. Flame away . I don't think we are loaded at all, so if Fairley goes, we need to spend the 4-5 million on a replacement. I think he played well, but that he is just not a top 12 DT. Some team might think he is worth $6 million, but I personally don't

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