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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Taco is a great case study of short area burst in the 10 over 40 times. You look at 4.92 and people jump to 34 DE conclusion. Dig into the numbers and he almost has the same results of Derek ...

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Old 03-17-2017, 02:40 PM   #11
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Taco is a great case study of short area burst in the 10 over 40 times. You look at 4.92 and people jump to 34 DE conclusion.

Dig into the numbers and he almost has the same results of Derek Barnett,

Derek Barnett SDE Tennessee 6030 259 4.88 #9 Jr

Kind of amazing despite being two inches taller and 20 pounds heavier. I am expecting better times for both at their pro day.

Here is the Taco Teaser: This was his first full year as a starter. This is were this turns into an apple and oranges comparison with Barnett. Taco sets the edge just as good as any player in the draft. Question is how far will his pass rushing skill develop since you are just scratching the surface. Right now he a two down DE with the arrow pointing up

So do you think the sacks will come with more playing time and coaching?

Taco Charlton DE Michigan 6052 272 4.92 #33 Sr,

RAW Has always been strong against the run game. Really coming along as a pass rusher this year, learning how to bend the edge and developing pass rush moves. Charlton has a NFL body with room to get even stronger, using his long reach (34") to extend into blockers and bully them wherever he wants them to go. He also has the lower body agility to sidestep block attempts and quickly regain his momentum to close on the ball carrier, showing a variety of rush moves against Michigan State blockers. Charlton needs to be more controlled with his rush sequence, but he has the point of attack power to set a hard edge vs. the run. Taco has all the ingredients of a NFL starter, long arms, muscular build, athleticism and quickness. He is starting to turn into a complete player.
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At 6'6 he will affect the passing lanes as he develops too. Be hard to get the ball over a 7ft target as he is rushing you
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At 6'6 he will affect the passing lanes if he develops too. Be hard to get the ball over a 7ft target as he might be rushing you
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Why not trade back five spots, still take Taco Charlton, Malik McDowell or another big DE, and pick up a third round pick as KC did with us on the Cooks acquisition trade?

It's not that I dislike Charlton, but if we're staying at No. 11 - you've got to get full, total value for the selection and not just reach for need...

I do not like Barnett as even a first round pick...
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We can't force teams to trade up with us.
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We can't force teams to trade up with us.
Why not? Why do I always see this differently?

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We can't force teams to trade up with us.
I have a $50 dollar beat with a buddy in Phili they will be calling to trade up on draft day.
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We can't force teams to trade up with us.
No one said anything about "force teams to trade up," but if several DEs are obviously clustered together talent wise after Myles Garret, I'd actively seek a partner to move back a few spots if we absolutely want to take a DE at No. 11...
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My Take on Duncan's Mock Draft:

No. 11 (R1, 11) DE Taco Charlton, Michigan; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 277 lbs.

He's got the measurables we need opposite Cam Jordan, and I'd like this pick more, if we were in the 20-25 range of round 1; in fact, I like this pick more than the media popular of UT Derek Barnett, who's hit his ceiling and doesn't have the length we need for our scheme; if Reuben Foster is gone, I'd definitely like the idea of moving back some to get a DE like this...

No. 32 (R1, 32) QB Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 225 lbs.

Not sure we'll even have this selection if we acquire NE CB Malcolm in the Middle Butler. Don't like this selection, reminds me of Russell Wilson - overrated, nervous feet, can't make a read to save his life with the pressure on.

No. 42 (R2, 10) Fabian Moreau, UCLA; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 205 lbs.

I really like this pick and Moreau; but it'd be more likely he will be selected with the 32nd pick (if we kept it); this guy had a slow start to his Sr year with an injury; but he's physical and he can lock up under a receiver's chin and run with 'em all over the field...

No. 76 (R3, 12) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 260 lbs.

Another player I really love, who's really put on a helluva an audition this draft season; he's got just the right size to play the weak side DE; makes plays, forces turnovers, creates havoc and the Saints have a good history with K-State DEs (Darren Howard), but he'll be gone by the third round and like the previous pick, we'd need to take him with our second round pick...

No. 103 (R3, 39) TE Jake Butt, Michigan; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 245 lbs.

This seems a bit early for Butt's skill set; while I very much like the thinking of improving TE, Butt's a reach here and I'd rather get some depth at safety where plenty of options still should be here...

Round 6 (196) LB Jordan Evans, Oklahoma

If this would happen, it would be an absolute coup; I really believe he's going in the fourth/fifth round, but if he's there, this would be a real steal...

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Bad timing (torn ACL) on Jake. He has 1st round talent at the TE position.
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