9 2016 New Orleans Saints free agents who remain unsigned

WillMacKenzie · 05-05-2017, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

How didn't he get a fair shake?

Came in day 1 and was given the starting job, never earned it. Better yet, he was awful at the position and still played all year. Kruger was no different than Bobby Richardson. Meanwhile a guy that actually earned the spot rode the bench all season...

Maybe that's not his fault, but the coaches should have benched him at some point.

He wasn't awful at the position, he just had the deck stacked against him a little bit. I think you're misunderstanding what I meant by "fair shake" as in he didn't get an opportunity, I meant fair shake as in he had bit of bad luck to start off with.

But like I said, that's the NFL, even Cam Jordan had an off year. It happens, and that's just too bad.

jeanpierre · 05-05-2017, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

How didn't he get a fair shake?

Came in day 1 and was given the starting job, never earned it. Better yet, he was awful at the position and still played all year. Kruger was no different than Bobby Richardson. Meanwhile a guy that actually earned the spot rode the bench all season...

Maybe that's not his fault, but the coaches should have benched him at some point.

Well, he came Day 1 as he wasn't signed until August 31, 2016 of the regular season; no training camp, nada...

Second, he was still recovering from a neck injury...

And third, just when he really was getting into his groove, he was injured in Week 4 and not at playing strength until Week 8...

It's moot now, but there were many challenges with bringing him in so late...

K Major · 05-05-2017, 11:54 AM

If newly signed FA Okafor (assuming he is 100%) is simply better than Kruger and injuries don't get in our way, we are going to be good on defense. I mean good. If you've noticed, we have made LB, S & cornerback strong positions this off - season.

IMO, the D-line is already athletic. Do not sleep on Okafor.

ScottF · 05-05-2017, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

If newly signed FA Okafor (assuming he is 100%) is simply better than Kruger and injuries don't get in our way, we are going to be good on defense. I mean good. If you've noticed, we have made LB, S & cornerback strong positions this off - season.

IMO, the D-line is already athletic. Do not sleep on Okafor.

I hope everybody is right and I'm wrong on Okafor. He's big and fast, but that has not translated to much stats-wise. I know he was down the line on the depth chart, but you have to think if he was good enough the Cards would have found a way to get him on the field

K Major · 05-05-2017, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

I know he was down the line on the depth chart, but you have to think if he was good enough the Cards would have found a way to get him on the field

Okafor chose New Orleans where he could become a starter from day 1

. The Redbirds are loaded and I don't think Alex wants to play behind Chandler J. He would be a rotational player at best.

blackangold · 05-05-2017, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, he came Day 1 as he wasn't signed until August 31, 2016 of the regular season; no training camp, nada...

Second, he was still recovering from a neck injury...

And third, just when he really was getting into his groove, he was injured in Week 4 and not at playing strength until Week 8...

It's moot now, but there were many challenges with bringing him in so late...

Please see my sig and get back at me BROOO!

05-05-2017, 09:56 AM	#11
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: 9 2016 New Orleans Saints free agents who remain unsigned Originally Posted by blackangold How didn't he get a fair shake? Came in day 1 and was given the starting job, never earned it. Better yet, he was awful at the position and still played all year. Kruger was no different than Bobby Richardson. Meanwhile a guy that actually earned the spot rode the bench all season... Maybe that's not his fault, but the coaches should have benched him at some point. He wasn't awful at the position, he just had the deck stacked against him a little bit. I think you're misunderstanding what I meant by "fair shake" as in he didn't get an opportunity, I meant fair shake as in he had bit of bad luck to start off with. But like I said, that's the NFL, even Cam Jordan had an off year. It happens, and that's just too bad.

05-05-2017, 11:33 AM	#12
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 9 2016 New Orleans Saints free agents who remain unsigned Originally Posted by blackangold How didn't he get a fair shake? Came in day 1 and was given the starting job, never earned it. Better yet, he was awful at the position and still played all year. Kruger was no different than Bobby Richardson. Meanwhile a guy that actually earned the spot rode the bench all season... Maybe that's not his fault, but the coaches should have benched him at some point. Well, he came Day 1 as he wasn't signed until August 31, 2016 of the regular season; no training camp, nada... Second, he was still recovering from a neck injury... And third, just when he really was getting into his groove, he was injured in Week 4 and not at playing strength until Week 8... It's moot now, but there were many challenges with bringing him in so late...

05-05-2017, 11:54 AM	#13
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,044 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 9 2016 New Orleans Saints free agents who remain unsigned If newly signed FA Okafor (assuming he is 100%) is simply better than Kruger and injuries don't get in our way, we are going to be good on defense. I mean good. If you've noticed, we have made LB, S & cornerback strong positions this off - season. IMO, the D-line is already athletic. Do not sleep on Okafor.

05-05-2017, 12:17 PM	#14
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: 9 2016 New Orleans Saints free agents who remain unsigned Originally Posted by K Major If newly signed FA Okafor (assuming he is 100%) is simply better than Kruger and injuries don't get in our way, we are going to be good on defense. I mean good. If you've noticed, we have made LB, S & cornerback strong positions this off - season. IMO, the D-line is already athletic. Do not sleep on Okafor. I hope everybody is right and I'm wrong on Okafor. He's big and fast, but that has not translated to much stats-wise. I know he was down the line on the depth chart, but you have to think if he was good enough the Cards would have found a way to get him on the field

05-05-2017, 12:49 PM	#15
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,044 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 9 2016 New Orleans Saints free agents who remain unsigned Originally Posted by ScottF I know he was down the line on the depth chart, but you have to think if he was good enough the Cards would have found a way to get him on the field Okafor chose New Orleans where he could become a starter from day 1 . The Redbirds are loaded and I don't think Alex wants to play behind Chandler J. He would be a rotational player at best.

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05-05-2017, 04:34 PM	#16
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 9 2016 New Orleans Saints free agents who remain unsigned Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, he came Day 1 as he wasn't signed until August 31, 2016 of the regular season; no training camp, nada... Second, he was still recovering from a neck injury... And third, just when he really was getting into his groove, he was injured in Week 4 and not at playing strength until Week 8... It's moot now, but there were many challenges with bringing him in so late... Please see my sig and get back at me BROOO!