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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Imagine being Matthew Stafford in Week 6 last season. Through the first five games, the Detroit Lions quarterback had completed 64 percent of his passes and thrown nine touchdowns and just one interception. Then, in Week 6, the New Orleans ...

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Imagine being Matthew Stafford in Week 6 last season.

Through the first five games, the Detroit Lions quarterback had completed 64 percent of his passes and thrown nine touchdowns and just one interception.

Then, in Week 6, the New Orleans Saints defense forced him to have a miserable day.

The Saints had 16 passes defensed in the game as the defense consistently knew where he was going with the ball and how to defend it. Stafford finished the game 25 of 52 (48 percent), and more than a quarter of his passes were tipped at some point, either at the line of scrimmage or in the defensive backfield. Stafford threw three touchdowns, but he also had three interceptions, including two that came off tipped passes.

"You looked at the end of the game, and it was like he was demoralized," Saints defensive line coach Ryan Nielsen said.

Talk to any Saints defensive coach, and the term "affect the passer" will almost certainly come up. As defensive coordinator Dennis Allen explained Thursday (May 31), the ball is the most important thing in the game, and because the quarterback has the ball the most, finding ways to make him uncomfortable is a chief goal for the defense.



Every defensive player has a chance to affect the quarterback on each passing play. The all-encompassing phrase includes sacks, pressures and quarterback hits, but defensive backs can affect the passer by knocking a receiver off his route or applying tight coverage that forces the quarterback to hold the ball for a little bit more time.

When the Saints evaluate players after each game, they have a formula that credits players for all methods of affecting the quarterback, and the defense was much better at accomplishing that goal in 2017, which was a big reason the defense improved to 17th overall after ranking 27th or worse each year from 2014-16.

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Agree, but the defensive tackles have to be more effective in getting the passer to the ground and in generating those sack/forced-fumbles with field position...
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Sacks are exciting but tipped passes can lead to making the QB uncomfortable as well. Just get him out of his normal frame of mind and get him nervous.
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Keep a lazy eye out for Jay Bromley. As of today, I have him @ #4 on the depth chart. That can quickly change post training camp. He was caught up in a scheme change up in NY.

Saints have added much needed depth to the D line. This could pay off in December.
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Keep a lazy eye out for Jay Bromley. As of today, I have him @ #4 on the depth chart. That can quickly change post training camp. He was caught up in a scheme change up in NY.

Saints have added much needed depth to the D line. This could pay off in January and February.
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Re: Affecting the passer goes far beyond sacks for Saints defense

Plus we need to "affect" the runner as well....
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Plus we need to "affect" the runner as well....
Guys in the middle just have to get better; Rankins is not playing to his projected level; Davison should be stronger; and we'll see what Demario is about...
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Guys in the middle just have to get better; Rankins is not playing to his projected level; Davison should be stronger; and will see what Demario is about...
I'll go out on a limb here and say Demario will be money well spent in the middle on D. 5 INTs last year (for whatever reason, Klein couldn't do this in 2017), 134 tackles & over the last 7 years he's missed one game.

That's a leader right there .
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I'll go out on a limb here and say Demario will be money well spent in the middle on D. 5 INTs last year (for whatever reason, Klein couldn't do this in 2017), 134 tackles & over the last 7 years he's missed one game.

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having Stafford's former coach on the team certainly didn't hurt either.
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