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Posted 09-29-2013 at 12:32 PM by homerj07

Shouldn't a qualification for being a member of the US Congress be at least limited intelligence AND understanding of how Congress & the Federal Government work?

Once again the dumabasses in the house are threatening to shut down the government over debt ceilings, money, taxes & the Affordable HealthCare Act.

I don't care a persons views or standings just support yourself with facts. Yes that dirty word - FACTS. Not what you here from Fox or Rush Limpdick or Michael Moore or MSNBC but facts.

The debt ceiling argument shows the absolute ignorance & stupidity of many people in Congress. We have already spent the money. Now you have to pay. It would be like going to a restaurant & ordering a large expensive meal & the deciding at the end you don want to pay.

Yes dear god yes I understand the need to reign in spending but this is not the way to do it (neither is cutting food stamps by the way)

Ohhhh - here's an idea lets pull out of Afghanistan how much would that save?Let's not give subsidies to HUGE companies (oil! farm, etc.) & let's restructure the tax code so that everyone wealthy & not pay a fair share.

I am soundly middle class. My profession choice insures that. But I am sick & tired of paying more than my fair share when people who make MILLIONS & BILLIONS of dollars are not.

Don't blame the country's problems on the rather minuscule amounts we pay for Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps & unemployment when We allow the corporations to bilk the country for 10 times as much.

Time for the members of Congress who have any intelligence & balls to stand up & do what is right for the country NOT what is right for the to get reelected.
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  1. Old Comment
    Well "Record government spending" is also propaganda.

    The country struggles because we've cut government collection from the rich. The answer is in one of my posts above.

    Everything you've heard on the MSM is probably wrong, to one degree or another.

    The Rich own all of the media, including MSNBC. Certain things are not allowed, and one of them is talking about tax rates for the richest being much, much higher.

    We're in debt because we stopped making the rich pay.

    The Tea Party is just a name for the rebranded Republican Party--Bush managed to pretty much trash "Republican." I don't believe they are substantially different, as they don't act differently.

    The only way back is to vote to go a little more LEFT in each election. At some point maybe Democrats will be in large enough numbers to go for "campaign finance reform."

    Big companies and the rich buy our elections. They get what THEY want from the population. They are not humans, but huge profit driven megaliths, who really minimally consider human wants and needs. With them in power, why would you expect us to be anywhere but in a hole of their making?
    Posted 07-28-2014 at 12:58 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline

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    MSNBC isn't really left-wing, but at least they have better actual information than FOX, or Rush, or Glen Beck, or G.Gordon Liddy, or Hannity, or O'Reilly, or anyone on the right-wing talk noise machine.

    Thom Hartmann is great, is historically accurate, and is the smartest guy I've listened to.

    Chicago's Progressive Talk
    Posted 07-28-2014 at 01:01 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    I say "historically accurate" because FOX doesn't even do that--there is no requirement for the (infotainment) news media to tell the truth, to report honestly. (believe it or not, it's true)
    Posted 07-28-2014 at 01:02 PM by mike27 mike27 is offline
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    Originally Posted by billyt81 View Comment
    Ok WHODATINCA, why do you hate the Tea Party so much?
    I think I made it clear, in my posts above, why I think the Tea Party are a bunch of misinformed, misguided lunatics who are hell bent on f*cking up this country even worse than it is already ( agreed it is hard to believe that's even possible ). You people are not reducing government, but actually destroying whatever faith America has left in government post-Watergate, Iran-Contra and the misadventure in Iraq. You make up a bunch of lies and then sell them to your parties faithful sheep who obviously don't bother to read and you seem to be immune to facts, in general. Fox News is not helping you or the country. Get your facts straight first, then, Billy, we can talk.

    But, since you asked, here are my problems with the Tea Party summarized:

    1. The birth-certificate conspiracy. Reality: Not even official birth certificates from Hawaii, newspaper clippings from 1961, and the testimony of state officials will convince Tea Partiers. Which is why WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah lectured the National Tea Party Convention for an hour about the “truth” of the birth-certificate story.

    2. Death panels. Reality: PolitiFact named Sarah Palin’s Facebook invention its “Lie of the Year,” and the belief was thoroughly exposed as a falsehood by every news network (even Fox). Yet Palin still insists that the panels exist somewhere in the health-care reform bill that was signed into law, its actual language notwithstanding.

    3. Obama is a Muslim/Socialist/Fascist. Glenn Beck’s fantasy of the week -- one week Obama was a Socialist, the next he was a Communist, then a Fascist. Then it was on to Marxism and Maoism -- was avidly adopted by sign-bearing fans at Tea Party gatherings, who sometimes shared Beck’s confusion by just calling Obama All of the Above. Reality: Give us a break. Obama’s self-evident cautious centrism, embodied by his health-care reform package stripped of a public option, as well as his more recent embrace of a limited offshore drilling program, has infuriated liberals in his party -- but it hasn’t stopped Tea Partiers from denouncing the president as a radical anyway.

    4. Obama is going to take away our guns. Well, the NRA managed to scare a whole lot of people into buying up every gun and piece of ammunition in sight the first year or so after Obama’s election. And at least five police officers died because the suspects they were arresting feared Obama was going to take away their guns. But Obama not only has adhered to his promise not to address gun-control issues, there hasn’t been even a breath of it from his administration. Which, of course, just makes the paranoids that much more paranoid: It’s proof that he’s really up to something.
    CORRECTION: Obama sponsored gun control legislation only after 20 children and 6 adults were killed in Newtown and after it had become clear that these tragic massacres are just getting more common. Of course, taking away anybody's guns is not a part of the proposal -- but you wouldn't know that because you don't read anything or watch anything that would help you understand that.

    5. Obama is raising our taxes. Reality: Obama lowered taxes for 95 percent of working Americans in his first year in office. But, you know, he’s a liberal Democrat – and for true-blue right-wing folks, that ALWAYS means a tax hike.

    6. Fascism is a left-wing phenomenon. We can thank Jonah Goldberg -- with a big assist from Beck -- for the popularity of this one, even though Goldberg’s thesis has been demolished and angrily dismissed by academic historians. It’s especially come in handy for Tea Partiers with Obama-as-Hitler signs, who are not impressed by those pointy-headed professorial types anyway.

    7. Global warming is a hoax. So Sean Hannity assures us, citing the Climategate brouhaha -- which was itself shown largely to be a hoax of its own. Meanwhile, the world’s ocean levels keep rising, and glaciers and the polar ice cap keep receding -- regardless of the endless words thrown up denying that they are.

    8. Some 16,000 new IRS agents will enforce the new health care reform act by throwing you in jail. Reality: The IRS is actually only increasing its spending in the coming budget year as it normally would -- but some Republican operatives decided to figure out how many positions its increased budget would buy, and came up with 16,000, a figure that then became gospel on Newt Gingrich’s lips. According to the same mythmakers, this nonexistent new army of health care police was going to start throwing people in jail if they failed to buy health insurance -- though in fact, the only penalties contemplated for such failures are fines and taxes.

    9. Two million people were at the 9/12 March on Washington. At the culmination of a month long promotion (highlighted by a national Tea Party Express bus tour) by Beck and Fox News, about 70,000 people gathered on the National Mall on September 12 to protest. Beck cited an erroneous early report that over a million had shown up. Later that grew to be two million, the figure now commonly cited by Tea Party leaders as evidence of their tremendous numerical force.

    10. The Tea Parties are a non-partisan, broad grassroots movement. Sure, if by non-partisan you mean rabidly paleo-conservative, to the point of even dismissing Republicans, and by grassroots you mean fake populism organized and whipped up by the most popular cable-news network on television, with a heaping helping of corporate financing. Tea Party folks and their defenders also want to believe that they’re just ordinary Americans who want to be serious about helping their country. But it’s pretty hard to fit that description when you embrace plain old nuttiness.

    From: Political Bookworm - 10 fictitious Tea Party beliefs
    Posted 07-29-2014 at 03:55 AM by WHODATINCA WHODATINCA is offline
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    This little idea that the right-wing extremists in the House have come up with -- IMPEACHMENT -- is gonna backfire BIG TIME for you. I hope you guys do it -- because I can assure you that the mid-terms will go dramatically better for the Dems if you do. I am not a Democrat -- I am a Liberal from California ( yeah, a liberal -- and all the good that is associated with the concept ).

    I believe that the profit motive should not be a part of health care. And, you should too. I mean what if you got hit by a car crossing the street and the guy standing over you told you that you had to pay him to call 911 for you? How would you feel about that? Even if you were willing to pay him -- what if you didn't have the money he was asking for? Think about it.

    Well, that is what's happening when we let profit seekers into the health care system -- people who will only save your life if you pay them. And, pharmaceutical companies who want to keep you just sick enough, so you have to keep buying their drugs while they raise the prices to astronomical levels.

    The whole health care industry is a huge scam and we are just cows at the slaughterhouse. Wake up.
    Posted 07-29-2014 at 04:23 AM by WHODATINCA WHODATINCA is offline

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