foreverfan

skymike

well, if Chief Daniels from Hill Street says its so, then I believe it.

pherein

I do believe in Unidentified Flying Objects. I don't believe Aliens are making crop circles, teach people to make pyramids, have lights on their craft, can be picked up by radar, buzz aircraft for fun, or sit over Mexico or Arizona for kicks. In 1990 Steven Greer founded the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, hes a whack job. Sorry but my credentials are way more amazing than his, and they suck, but would look amazing on a resume.
Steven M. Greer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bad actors and fake resumes don't fool real scientist

I love the show "UFOs Over Earth" - MUFON
They actually take a competent and scientific approach, something that is severely laking in the amateur investigation going on.



Almost none of the people that investigate these things have any ability to do so, and are mentally compromise from the beginning. To think something is from another world, and thats your first impression, is scientifically unsound.



99.9% of what people are seeing can be explained, with real scientific investigation, but they don't want to ear that.
They want sea monsters and volcano gods, as a friend once told me at nasa. It's the .1% we are really interested in.

Saints proved that pigs could fly in 2009.
Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

foreverfan

Did you watch more than the first 5 minutes of a 2 hour show?
Steven Greer's credentials are not what the show's about.
It's the other 22 people that follow him and the 400 hundred others that are willing to come forward that are the show. You can't discredit that.

And this is no possible way the ancients built the great pyramid.
You know nothing about what you talk about. Your credentials suck.
Even if UFOs can be idenified as earthly, many are not.

You probally believe that crop circles are made by man.

2019 Death of a Parrot.

pherein

The construction of the pyramids has been explained in detail a long time ago.

Riddle Of The Great Pyramids Of Giza: Professor Finds Some Building Blocks Were Concrete

Ancient Egypt's pyramids: Norwegian researcher unlocks construction secrets

How Were The Egyptian Pyramids Built?

If an aliens built the pyramids they would have to architectural morons, we could build a better pyramid today, and there are a number of failed pyramids like the step. So, how does it make sense that they have all this amazing engineer technology, but cant manage a simple triangle on the first go? Because they didn't build them we did, and thats been well documented and explained.

The UnMuseum - How to Build a Pyramid

Any of these symbols look familiar? They are greek, mexican, and etc. crop circles are man made.

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The ancient Greeks in America

If these are made by aliens, then why No alien lettering, no new language, no message in alien, these are common earth shapes and patterns placed in a corn field to awe people and have no content or message.
scienceofcropcircles
Dust Devils, Alaska Science Forum

Whirlwinds and dust devils are exceptionally common phenomena. Crop fields are exceptionally common. It would be nice to have a video of a whirlwind touching down and swirling some crops into a flat rough circle, but, since it is already so well known that they do touch down briefly in one spot and then retreat back into the sky, it is pretty much obvious what kind of pattern they would leave in a crop field, if they did it there.

The two guys with the board and a rope who admitted to hoaxing them for years said they were inspired by reports of people finding circles in their crops. I strongly suspect all the pre-hoax reports of crop circles arose from ones made by whirlwinds.

What you are perceiving is that UFO = Alien life form visiting us from another world
What you are perceiving is that pyramid = Aliens built it for what ever reason
What you are perceiving is that crop circles = Aliens sneaking out at night making pretty shapes

What I am perceiving is that UFO = Unidentified flying object ( most are explained), some are not might be alien we don't know. Way more probable its secret test.
What I am perceiving is that pyramids = Made by Egyptians, proven, and a testament to human ingenuity.
What I am perceiving is that crop circles = crop circles. The simple ones are easily explained, and the others many were shown to be a hoax.

I have a lot of proof to show my point of view, you have 0.

This video is about 9 years old and nothing became of it. What proof do you have that aliens are doing this from a creditable source? For some reason Alien hunters seem to think they are exempt from completely proving their position.

UFO's do not = Aliens. I have also posted creditable information that we might have this technology via the Bell project started in Germany. You seem to WANT to believe this, and that kind of thinking compromises judgement. Im very open to alien races, but I am not open to outlandish claims.

If these are secret government vehicle velocity test, you never will hear and they will never tell you anything, ever. Why didn't congress see these people as valid enough to believe?

Take the Tin foil off your head and approach the situation realistically, you will get better results.

Saints proved that pigs could fly in 2009.
Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

skymike

tin foil hat... hahaha...
are we really gonna get mad at each other over UFO's?
hahaha.... cmon.

So, we had this REALLY cool UFO story near where I grew up.
It was in the middle of nowhere between Huffman, Tx, but I guess
cool may be a bad choice of words, since a lady actually contracted
some sort of radiation that eventually killed her.

I'f the story is as real as reported, I'm pretty sure it was an experimental (I know how this sounds.) aircraft. But man, it had a weird shape, and did some weird movements, (no I didnt see it.)
and the story says about 6 or 7 military helicopters followed it all
the way East to the State Line.

Google it. Its really interesting. You might have to search, "Dayton, Tx and UFO."

pherein

I dont think, we're mad, Im not , love FF's post, he's one of the smartest posters on here. I see some really good wit jabs thrown at me here, love debating with him.
But , as always sky maybe your post is timely, I should probably ley off some of the heavy verbiage, so Im not perceived the wrong way, it's a good point sky.

We actually both believe the heart of the matter, we are probably being visited.
We're we differ is the evidence, method, and belief vs science or proof of it.
At least I hope FF is not taking offense, Im a little fanatical in my view as well.

I just think that we have independent archaeologist studying history and structures like the pyramids, they have no preconception on how it was done, and they have documented them very well for 100's of years and legitimate effort. You don't just throw that out the window during a table conversation as say "Na Aliens did it, Im sure of it, no Ive never read any of your years of study, but did you read Chariots of the Gods?" .
Its a jaw dropper to scientist. I haven't even heard of a single UFO related dig in Egypt.

and I would never ask and give the Vatican the responsibility for proving the Bible and God historically. The outcome would be obvious.

So why does anyone believe UFO alien hunters are any different. They will perpetuate their belief, and you will never learn the truth. They already believe.

Saints proved that pigs could fly in 2009.
Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

foreverfan

Well one thing is for sure, the Egyptians with copper tools and limited knowledge of mathmatics didn't make the pyrmaids. To think the Egyptians built the Great Pyramid is ludicrous. There are hundreds of people who have tried to explain it but nobody can. WHO GAVE THEM THE KNOWLEDGE? Where are the tools? Besides, Egyptians alway put hyrogliphs on all of their structures. None were found. Not even one. They have granite pollished to 1/1000 of an inch. We have a hard time doing that today. I have easily watched over 20 hours studing the Great Pyramid and there is no doubt in my mind that it was IMPOSSIBLE for ancient man didn't have some kind of help from others.

It was like civilization started and declined.




Back to the original video and the question of Aliens...
Remember, if one story isn't swamp gas... then they are real. Also, if ANY ONE OF those witnesses testified under oath that they saw you kill somebody, you'd be put in jail. They have over 400 people ready to testify before congress under oath.

Listen, there is too much to explain here.

Ever heard of Zecharia Sitchin? Sure you can find people who say he's a crackpot because his theories turn everything we know on it's head. Same thing for Llyod Pye. For every person that believes in aliens there are two to say they don't exist. I haven't met god either but I believe in him.

The Official Web Site of Zecharia Sitchin

Did you watch any of the original video after the first 10 minutes of BS? It's really easy to dismiss it as BS after the introduction. What follows is 1:45 minutes of 22 of the most creditible witnesses coming forward telling incredible stories. They saw something unexplainable. Something real. Something they preceived as out of this world.

I haven't watched all of the videos you posted (I may get the time).

As far as crop circles go... yes two guy said they made a few. I think they are dead or 70 now. It doesn't matter. Sure some are man made. Others they are not so sure of. In any case, whirlwinds can't make this figures and many of them are 4 football field large or larger. It is estimated that some of these would take 2 months to do with 2 people. I'm not saying that crop circles are make by space aliens.

In any case Pherin... We offer no real proof. The rabbit hole is deep and unexplainable. Still, I enjoy BSing about it.

Have you been watching the Ancient Aliens series by the History Channel?
They ask some important questions but offer no real answers.

2019 Death of a Parrot.

st thomas

its your uncles money at work, if he can keep it down a couple of billion a piece please, i'll tend to agree.

foreverfan

Huh?