Should rich kids be ineligible for college scholarships?

SmashMouth · 05-31-2012, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

LOL. If the left didn't work for equality, there SURELY would not be any.

OK.... give the failing student your A's in school just so you can both graduate a C student. Are you OK with that? Both have equal opportunity to earn A's; it just takes hard work to get them. Not everyone is cut out for the kind of work it may require to get A's; this is the outcomes part. Obviously, not everyone is guaranteed A's; in fact no one is. Eerily similar to income, don't you think?

Cruize · 05-31-2012, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

OK.... give the failing student your A's in school just so you can both graduate a C student. Are you OK with that? Both have equal opportunity to earn A's; it just takes hard work to get them. Not everyone is cut out for the kind of work it may require to get A's; this is the outcomes part. Obviously, not everyone is guaranteed A's; in fact no one is. Eerily similar to income, don't you think?

LOL. I disagree with the statement that our nation guarantees equality and the left is only working to guarantee equal outcomes. That's simply not true. Take gay marraige for example. We can't profess to have equal rights in this country if it only applies to men, whites, and straight people. It has to be equal to everyone. We certainly are closer than we once were, but we're not there yet. As to the original topic, it's a no brainer. If you earn a scholarship, it's yours. Wealth absolutely should have nothing to do with it.

SmashMouth · 05-31-2012, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

LOL. I disagree with the statement that our nation guarantees equality and the left is only working to guarantee equal outcomes.

Did not say equality as a blanket statement. This is how the left confuses things. Equal Opportunity. Not equal outcomes. Life is not fair. Neither is nature. Never meant to be. Plenty of folks that started out of nothing that made something of themselves, regardless of race, gender, etc ... This is the USA. Living in another country will show you the light. Heck with internet now, one can easily see a plethora of examples.

On the other hand... with affirmative action and quotas, this is considered unequal opportunity; an accomplishment from the left which has passed its prime (or has it, as the Caucasians are set to be the minority soon in this country; they already are world wide). Even in terms of scholarships, they are often doled out based on certain mandated quotas and affirmative action. This affects great students who may not have the opportunity to attend the school of their first choice. But straight A's will get you a full scholarship somewhere.

05-31-2012, 01:38 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,728 Blog Entries: 29	Originally Posted by Cruize LOL. If the left didn't work for equality, there SURELY would not be any. OK.... give the failing student your A's in school just so you can both graduate a C student. Are you OK with that? Both have equal opportunity to earn A's; it just takes hard work to get them. Not everyone is cut out for the kind of work it may require to get A's; this is the outcomes part. Obviously, not everyone is guaranteed A's; in fact no one is. Eerily similar to income, don't you think?

05-31-2012, 01:57 PM	#2
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Originally Posted by SmashMouth OK.... give the failing student your A's in school just so you can both graduate a C student. Are you OK with that? Both have equal opportunity to earn A's; it just takes hard work to get them. Not everyone is cut out for the kind of work it may require to get A's; this is the outcomes part. Obviously, not everyone is guaranteed A's; in fact no one is. Eerily similar to income, don't you think? LOL. I disagree with the statement that our nation guarantees equality and the left is only working to guarantee equal outcomes. That's simply not true. Take gay marraige for example. We can't profess to have equal rights in this country if it only applies to men, whites, and straight people. It has to be equal to everyone. We certainly are closer than we once were, but we're not there yet. As to the original topic, it's a no brainer. If you earn a scholarship, it's yours. Wealth absolutely should have nothing to do with it.
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05-31-2012, 02:20 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,728 Blog Entries: 29	Originally Posted by Cruize LOL. I disagree with the statement that our nation guarantees equality and the left is only working to guarantee equal outcomes. Did not say equality as a blanket statement. This is how the left confuses things. Equal Opportunity. Not equal outcomes. Life is not fair. Neither is nature. Never meant to be. Plenty of folks that started out of nothing that made something of themselves, regardless of race, gender, etc ... This is the USA. Living in another country will show you the light. Heck with internet now, one can easily see a plethora of examples. On the other hand... with affirmative action and quotas, this is considered unequal opportunity; an accomplishment from the left which has passed its prime (or has it, as the Caucasians are set to be the minority soon in this country; they already are world wide). Even in terms of scholarships, they are often doled out based on certain mandated quotas and affirmative action. This affects great students who may not have the opportunity to attend the school of their first choice. But straight A's will get you a full scholarship somewhere.