Someone else made that happen?

SmashMouth · 07-24-2012, 12:24 PM

Someone else made that happen? Business owners know hard work, long hours lead to success

Long hours and hard work helped Joey Vento build a landmark restaurant in Philadelphia from the ground up, but that work ethic may have also sent him to an early grave.

That's why Eileen Vento's blood boiled when she heard President Obama declare last week that small business owners like her husband owed others for their success.
“That is ridiculous. My husband had $6 in his pocket when he started.” Vento said to FoxNews.com about Joey Vento, who opened Geno’s Steaks in 1966 in the neighborhood of South Philly.
“He worked hard his whole life to build the place up. We made a lot of money. Unfortunately he didn’t get to enjoy it.”
- Eileen Vento, widow of cheesesteak king Joey Vento
“He worked hard his whole life to build the place up. We made a lot of money. Unfortunately, he didn’t get to enjoy it,” she added.
Vento worked at the shop right up until a heart attack killed him last August at age 71. His widow believes 45 years of toil to build a prosperous life for his family took a toll on him. She bristled at the comment Obama made during a campaign stop in Roanoke, Va., last Friday when he said business owners owed some of their success to help along the way, noting that government often provides the infrastructure needed for success.
“If you got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen,” Obama said. "If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive."
The comments created a backlash among small business owners and others across the country who feel that entrepreneurship is the backbone of the American economy. Vento's sister-in-law said Joey Vento owed his success to his own hard work and the loyal customers he cultivated.
“He went there at 3 or 4 in the morning and stayed until 11 every night. He did it seven days a week,” said Diana Vergagini. “And when he wasn’t there he'd call in at every shift change asking, ‘How did we do? What’s the bread count? What’s the steak count?’”
Vento gained national notoriety in 2006 when he posted a sign at the order window that read, “This is America: When ordering please ‘speak English.’”

Read more: Someone else made that happen? Business owners know hard work, long hours lead to success -- and an early grave | Fox News

Danno · 07-24-2012, 03:10 PM

Just further proof that the only thing dumber than Obama's statements are the people who defend him.

saintfan · 07-24-2012, 03:39 PM

I ate there 2 and a half years ago. It made me proud. Seriously.

papz · 07-24-2012, 06:16 PM

Enjoy.

You didn't fark that. Somebody else made that happen. @ TigerDroppings.com

jcp026 · 07-24-2012, 06:46 PM

Hey, guys. This "you didn't make that happen" controversy is B.S. He was saying that businesses didn't build roads, bridges, etc. It got picked up by the Romney campaign, which is understandable, but it was also pick up and selectively edited by a supposed news organization (Fox News). Romney slammed Obama for not giving small business owners credit for their achievements and then made the same argument the president did. Not a real story.

I didn't get a chance to comment at the end of the birther thread. Here it is. Colin Powell, even with the aluminum tube smudge on his resume, would be a great president. John McCain, circa 2000, would have been a great president. Not as much in 2008 or now. He's been subject to the same forces that push most politicians to the political extremes. There was a time when the most conservative democrat was more conservative than the most liberal republican, and vice versa. That's when we worked together.

ScottF · 07-25-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by jcp026

Hey, guys. This "you didn't make that happen" controversy is B.S. He was saying that businesses didn't build roads, bridges, etc. It got picked up by the Romney campaign, which is understandable, but it was also pick up and selectively edited by a supposed news organization (Fox News). Romney slammed Obama for not giving small business owners credit for their achievements and then made the same argument the president did. Not a real story.

I didn't get a chance to comment at the end of the birther thread. Here it is. Colin Powell, even with the aluminum tube smudge on his resume, would be a great president. John McCain, circa 2000, would have been a great president. Not as much in 2008 or now. He's been subject to the same forces that push most politicians to the political extremes. There was a time when the most conservative democrat was more conservative than the most liberal republican, and vice versa. That's when we worked together.

Forget it.
This negative ad did exactly what it was supposed to: provide more ammunition for anyone who only wants half of the story. Why be an informed voter when who can just listen to a negative ad that clearly took quotes out of context and make your decision that way?

jcp026 · 07-25-2012, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Forget it.
This negative ad did exactly what it was supposed to: provide more ammunition for anyone who only wants half of the story. Why be an informed voter when who can just listen to a negative ad that clearly took quotes out of context and make your decision that way?

This is a bit off topic, but I tried to sit through an entire episode of Glenn Beck's show when it was still on Fox News. Taking things out of context to the extreme. For one segment, he played clips of liberals or democrats, obviously, and explained what they were saying. Sounds harmless enough, I guess, but forget context, he wasn't even playing full sentences. It was incredible. "Here's a sentence fragment, now let me lie to you." I can't believe he managed to stay on as long as he did.

saintfan · 07-25-2012, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by jcp026

This is a bit off topic, but I tried to sit through an entire episode of Glenn Beck's show when it was still on Fox News. Taking things out of context to the extreme. For one segment, he played clips of liberals or democrats, obviously, and explained what they were saying. Sounds harmless enough, I guess, but forget context, he wasn't even playing full sentences. It was incredible. "Here's a sentence fragment, now let me lie to you." I can't believe he managed to stay on as long as he did.

Keith Olberman anybody? Look they're all circus acts anyway, but you can't throw Beck under the bus without a buddy. I've listened to "Young Turks", and I listen to NPR every morning, and I give Fox and CNN some of my time too.

ITS ALL ENTERTAINMENT. That's the rub. And yes, everything they say has an angle. This is what I speak of when I talk about how sick I am of political 'marketing'. It's ruining the country.

But make nooooo mistake about it. Neither side is less guilty than the other. Personally, I dismiss the opinion of ANYONE who thinks otherwise.

jcp026 · 07-25-2012, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Keith Olberman anybody? Look they're all circus acts anyway, but you can't throw Beck under the bus without a buddy. I've listened to "Young Turks", and I listen to NPR every morning, and I give Fox and CNN some of my time too.

ITS ALL ENTERTAINMENT. That's the rub. And yes, everything they say has an angle. This is what I speak of when I talk about how sick I am of political 'marketing'. It's ruining the country.

But make nooooo mistake about it. Neither side is less guilty than the other. Personally, I dismiss the opinion of ANYONE who thinks otherwise.

Dude, we both know that the "news" has become more about ratings and revenue and has sacrificed facts for opinions. But would you have called me out if my post had been about Olbermann instead of Beck? I don't doubt you would have thought that both there are commentators on both sides who mislead people, but if I'd called out someone on the left, would you have actually commented? I don't think so.

This WHOLE THREAD is based on deceit and you haven't said anything about that or corrected anyone who supports the view. Even if you do believe this thread is based on the truth, I don't see any comments about Romney making basically the same assertions as Obama.

This thread is based on taking things out of context and I cited the most extreme example I've ever seen. He didn't just take things out of context, he wasn't even terribly subtle about it, HE USED SENTENCE FRAGMENTS! Three and four word snippets. I've never seen anyone else do that.

I generally like you comments, but come on.

Halo · 07-24-2012, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Someone else made that happen? Business owners know hard work, long hours lead to success

07-24-2012, 12:24 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Someone else made that happen? Someone else made that happen? Business owners know hard work, long hours lead to success Long hours and hard work helped Joey Vento build a landmark restaurant in Philadelphia from the ground up, but that work ethic may have also sent him to an early grave. That's why Eileen Vento's blood boiled when she heard President Obama declare last week that small business owners like her husband owed others for their success. “That is ridiculous. My husband had $6 in his pocket when he started.” Vento said to FoxNews.com about Joey Vento, who opened Geno’s Steaks in 1966 in the neighborhood of South Philly. “He worked hard his whole life to build the place up. We made a lot of money. Unfortunately he didn’t get to enjoy it.” - Eileen Vento, widow of cheesesteak king Joey Vento “He worked hard his whole life to build the place up. We made a lot of money. Unfortunately, he didn’t get to enjoy it,” she added. Vento worked at the shop right up until a heart attack killed him last August at age 71. His widow believes 45 years of toil to build a prosperous life for his family took a toll on him. She bristled at the comment Obama made during a campaign stop in Roanoke, Va., last Friday when he said business owners owed some of their success to help along the way, noting that government often provides the infrastructure needed for success. “If you got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen,” Obama said. "If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive." The comments created a backlash among small business owners and others across the country who feel that entrepreneurship is the backbone of the American economy. Vento's sister-in-law said Joey Vento owed his success to his own hard work and the loyal customers he cultivated. “He went there at 3 or 4 in the morning and stayed until 11 every night. He did it seven days a week,” said Diana Vergagini. “And when he wasn’t there he'd call in at every shift change asking, ‘How did we do? What’s the bread count? What’s the steak count?’” Vento gained national notoriety in 2006 when he posted a sign at the order window that read, “This is America: When ordering please ‘speak English.’” Read more: Someone else made that happen? Business owners know hard work, long hours lead to success -- and an early grave \| Fox News

07-24-2012, 06:46 PM	#5
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 952	Hey, guys. This "you didn't make that happen" controversy is B.S. He was saying that businesses didn't build roads, bridges, etc. It got picked up by the Romney campaign, which is understandable, but it was also pick up and selectively edited by a supposed news organization (Fox News). Romney slammed Obama for not giving small business owners credit for their achievements and then made the same argument the president did. Not a real story. I didn't get a chance to comment at the end of the birther thread. Here it is. Colin Powell, even with the aluminum tube smudge on his resume, would be a great president. John McCain, circa 2000, would have been a great president. Not as much in 2008 or now. He's been subject to the same forces that push most politicians to the political extremes. There was a time when the most conservative democrat was more conservative than the most liberal republican, and vice versa. That's when we worked together. ScottF likes this.
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07-25-2012, 03:32 PM	#6
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by jcp026 Hey, guys. This "you didn't make that happen" controversy is B.S. He was saying that businesses didn't build roads, bridges, etc. It got picked up by the Romney campaign, which is understandable, but it was also pick up and selectively edited by a supposed news organization (Fox News). Romney slammed Obama for not giving small business owners credit for their achievements and then made the same argument the president did. Not a real story. I didn't get a chance to comment at the end of the birther thread. Here it is. Colin Powell, even with the aluminum tube smudge on his resume, would be a great president. John McCain, circa 2000, would have been a great president. Not as much in 2008 or now. He's been subject to the same forces that push most politicians to the political extremes. There was a time when the most conservative democrat was more conservative than the most liberal republican, and vice versa. That's when we worked together. Forget it. This negative ad did exactly what it was supposed to: provide more ammunition for anyone who only wants half of the story. Why be an informed voter when who can just listen to a negative ad that clearly took quotes out of context and make your decision that way? Halo likes this.

07-25-2012, 04:19 PM	#7
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 952	Originally Posted by ScottF Forget it. This negative ad did exactly what it was supposed to: provide more ammunition for anyone who only wants half of the story. Why be an informed voter when who can just listen to a negative ad that clearly took quotes out of context and make your decision that way? This is a bit off topic, but I tried to sit through an entire episode of Glenn Beck's show when it was still on Fox News. Taking things out of context to the extreme. For one segment, he played clips of liberals or democrats, obviously, and explained what they were saying. Sounds harmless enough, I guess, but forget context, he wasn't even playing full sentences. It was incredible. "Here's a sentence fragment, now let me lie to you." I can't believe he managed to stay on as long as he did.
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 952

07-25-2012, 04:51 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by jcp026 This is a bit off topic, but I tried to sit through an entire episode of Glenn Beck's show when it was still on Fox News. Taking things out of context to the extreme. For one segment, he played clips of liberals or democrats, obviously, and explained what they were saying. Sounds harmless enough, I guess, but forget context, he wasn't even playing full sentences. It was incredible. "Here's a sentence fragment, now let me lie to you." I can't believe he managed to stay on as long as he did. Keith Olberman anybody? Look they're all circus acts anyway, but you can't throw Beck under the bus without a buddy. I've listened to "Young Turks", and I listen to NPR every morning, and I give Fox and CNN some of my time too. ITS ALL ENTERTAINMENT. That's the rub. And yes, everything they say has an angle. This is what I speak of when I talk about how sick I am of political 'marketing'. It's ruining the country. But make nooooo mistake about it. Neither side is less guilty than the other. Personally, I dismiss the opinion of ANYONE who thinks otherwise.
	C'mon Man...

07-24-2012, 03:10 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Just further proof that the only thing dumber than Obama's statements are the people who defend him.

07-24-2012, 03:39 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	I ate there 2 and a half years ago. It made me proud. Seriously.

07-24-2012, 06:16 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Enjoy. You didn't fark that. Somebody else made that happen. @ TigerDroppings.com

07-25-2012, 06:08 PM	#9
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 952	Originally Posted by saintfan Keith Olberman anybody? Look they're all circus acts anyway, but you can't throw Beck under the bus without a buddy. I've listened to "Young Turks", and I listen to NPR every morning, and I give Fox and CNN some of my time too. ITS ALL ENTERTAINMENT. That's the rub. And yes, everything they say has an angle. This is what I speak of when I talk about how sick I am of political 'marketing'. It's ruining the country. But make nooooo mistake about it. Neither side is less guilty than the other. Personally, I dismiss the opinion of ANYONE who thinks otherwise. Dude, we both know that the "news" has become more about ratings and revenue and has sacrificed facts for opinions. But would you have called me out if my post had been about Olbermann instead of Beck? I don't doubt you would have thought that both there are commentators on both sides who mislead people, but if I'd called out someone on the left, would you have actually commented? I don't think so. This WHOLE THREAD is based on deceit and you haven't said anything about that or corrected anyone who supports the view. Even if you do believe this thread is based on the truth, I don't see any comments about Romney making basically the same assertions as Obama. This thread is based on taking things out of context and I cited the most extreme example I've ever seen. He didn't just take things out of context, he wasn't even terribly subtle about it, HE USED SENTENCE FRAGMENTS! Three and four word snippets. I've never seen anyone else do that. I generally like you comments, but come on.
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 952

07-24-2012, 09:08 PM	#10
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by SmashMouth Someone else made that happen? Business owners know hard work, long hours lead to success saintfan likes this.