This is a bit off topic, but I tried to sit through an entire episode of Glenn Beck's show when it was still on Fox News. Taking things out of context to the extreme. For one segment, he played clips of liberals or democrats, obviously, and explained what they were saying. Sounds harmless enough, I guess, but forget context, he wasn't even playing full sentences. It was incredible. "Here's a sentence fragment, now let me lie to you." I can't believe he managed to stay on as long as he did.

Keith Olberman anybody? Look they're all circus acts anyway, but you can't throw Beck under the bus without a buddy. I've listened to "Young Turks", and I listen to NPR every morning, and I give Fox and CNN some of my time too.

ITS ALL ENTERTAINMENT. That's the rub. And yes, everything they say has an angle. This is what I speak of when I talk about how sick I am of political 'marketing'. It's ruining the country.

But make nooooo mistake about it. Neither side is less guilty than the other. Personally, I dismiss the opinion of ANYONE who thinks otherwise.

Dude, we both know that the "news" has become more about ratings and revenue and has sacrificed facts for opinions. But would you have called me out if my post had been about Olbermann instead of Beck? I don't doubt you would have thought that both there are commentators on both sides who mislead people, but if I'd called out someone on the left, would you have actually commented? I don't think so.

This WHOLE THREAD is based on deceit and you haven't said anything about that or corrected anyone who supports the view. Even if you do believe this thread is based on the truth, I don't see any comments about Romney making basically the same assertions as Obama.

This thread is based on taking things out of context and I cited the most extreme example I've ever seen. He didn't just take things out of context, he wasn't even terribly subtle about it, HE USED SENTENCE FRAGMENTS! Three and four word snippets. I've never seen anyone else do that.

I generally like you comments, but come on.

jcp, I've read this thread and I don't think saintfan was calling you out. He was making comparisons to your analogy you started about fox news and Glenn Beck.

You can make whatever assumptions about what he might have been thinking - he is human and has political opinions - but seriously he wasn't trying to single you out or call you out.

As for Glenn Beck and Olberman, both were fired or released from their respective news agencies for lying in exactly the manner you described.

My apologies jcp. I was not calling you out. My blood boils when I read 'feaux news' or when I read people raking Rush or Beck over the coals.

Most liberals I know do that. They are incensed by those men, yet they can listen to the same propaganda heard on NPR and CNN and spouted by the likes of Keith Olberman and, for that matter, pretty much any Network Newscast. Whether or not it's 100 percent accurate, Fox news offers a Conservative view that's hard to find on Television. That's just accurate.

Now, I am on record here of calling out the likes of Rush Limbaugh just the same. It's entertainment, plain and simple.

In all honesty, I see a LOT of 'calling out' of the conservative talking heads. Not so much the liberals, and, in all honesty, this is because the media is dominated/saturated with the liberal view. So when a Conservative gets a little sensitive I kinda understand.

To be clear, I was simply evening the playing field by mentioning Olberman. Frankly I loath that man, which saddens me because I remember him from a time when ESPN didn't suck. But I'm not a listener of any of the talking heads from either side. I'm an old broadcaster. I prefer to listen to NPR because I enjoy listening to Steve Inskeep. I believe he is an excellent broadcaster and a pretty darn good reporter - a dying breed by the way - in spite of his employer.

I'm not a card carrying member of either party. I lean Conservative, am liberal in many ways, and am confounded by the far right and far left equally. But when I see somebody roasting Rush or Hannity or Beck I feel obligated to bring one of the uber-liberal names into the conversation. I like to see the responses. It's usually good for a nice laugh.