Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything

foreverfan · 02-28-2013, 11:52 PM

Megafactories Tesla Electric Cars 2013!
Taking Orders Now.

Fast Forward to 2013 and its earlier problems behind it, the Tesla Motor Company is launching its latest car; the Tesla Model S, a revolutionary $50,000 all-electric car which is now selling in the US.

Watch This Video and then Visit Tesla Motors
Smashmouth... you should love the gas mileage.

Megafactories Tesla Model S (English) - YouTube

It's more affordable than you think....

foreverfan · 02-28-2013, 11:57 PM

Crusader · 03-01-2013, 04:49 AM

I would love to have that blue one if could have afforded it.

SloMotion · 03-01-2013, 06:23 AM

It sure does change everything ... Tesla is the one company that can competently design/build/market an electric car to the masses. I just need them to build something big enough to pull a small boat,

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dam1953 · 03-01-2013, 10:44 AM

1. Recent developments in oil and gas exploration, drilling and production promise to make the US energy independent before the end of the decade.
2. Fracking technology promises to make oil and gas cheap and plentiful well into the future.
3. The US is not in the top-10 suppliers of lithium, the material used in today’s most advanced batteries. China is a major supplier of lithium.
4. Lithium mining operations in developing countries is creating severe environmental damage.
5. Coal, which supplies 42% of US power, is considered environmentally unfriendly.
6. Nuclear, which supplies 19% of US power, is considered too dangerous after the Japanese tsunami and new plant construction is highly unlikely. Furthermore, there is no plan for disposing/storing highly dangerous nuclear waste.
7. Hydro, which supplies 8% of US power, is considered environmentally unfriendly.
8. Wind power is beginning to demonstrate considerable, negative environmental and health impacts.
9. Considering purchase price and efficiency CNG vehicles are likely more energy and environmentally friendly that even the best EV.
10. Electric vehicles have a very limited cruising range. If the US moves toward newer diesel engine technology the efficiency differential between EVs and fossil fueled vehicle (FFV) will become even greater. It is highly unlikely that EVs will ever match fossil fuels in this performance category.
11. Numerous studies show that due to battery life limitations the resale value of EV’s will be essentially the same as that of a FFV with a blown engine. Considering that replacement battery cost is approximately 40% of the cost of many new EV’s the resale value is projected to be near “0”.

So, why are we spending billions subsidizing the development of EVs.

SmashMouth · 03-01-2013, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by dam1953

1. Recent developments in oil and gas exploration, drilling and production promise to make the US energy independent before the end of the decade.
2. Fracking technology promises to make oil and gas cheap and plentiful well into the future.
3. The US is not in the top-10 suppliers of lithium, the material used in today’s most advanced batteries. China is a major supplier of lithium.
4. Lithium mining operations in developing countries is creating severe environmental damage.
5. Coal, which supplies 42% of US power, is considered environmentally unfriendly.
6. Nuclear, which supplies 19% of US power, is considered too dangerous after the Japanese tsunami and new plant construction is highly unlikely. Furthermore, there is no plan for disposing/storing highly dangerous nuclear waste.
7. Hydro, which supplies 8% of US power, is considered environmentally unfriendly.
8. Wind power is beginning to demonstrate considerable, negative environmental and health impacts.
9. Considering purchase price and efficiency CNG vehicles are likely more energy and environmentally friendly that even the best EV.
10. Electric vehicles have a very limited cruising range. If the US moves toward newer diesel engine technology the efficiency differential between EVs and fossil fueled vehicle (FFV) will become even greater. It is highly unlikely that EVs will ever match fossil fuels in this performance category.
11. Numerous studies show that due to battery life limitations the resale value of EV’s will be essentially the same as that of a FFV with a blown engine. Considering that replacement battery cost is approximately 40% of the cost of many new EV’s the resale value is projected to be near “0”.

So, why are we spending billions subsidizing the development of EVs.

Exactly .... although a cool technology. Tesla Motors markets a car most of us cannot afford, particularly the one we would all want, the extended range variant.

OTOH, Hydrogen is a better alternative. Honda has been having a model for lease for 2-3 years. But there is alas no infrastructure planned for this better solution, a greener solution I might add, for the overly large expensive batteries used in EV's are a tree-hugger's ecofriendly nightmare.

Honda FCX Clarity Overview - Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle - Site

Danno · 03-01-2013, 11:47 AM

Where does the electricy come from to charge these cars?

foreverfan · 03-01-2013, 02:58 PM

Did anyone bother to watch the video?

Danno · 03-01-2013, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Did anyone bother to watch the video?

There was a video?

foreverfan · 03-01-2013, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

There was a video?

See the first Picture for the YouTube Video.

02-28-2013, 11:57 PM	#2
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything

03-01-2013, 04:49 AM	#3
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything I would love to have that blue one if could have afforded it.

03-01-2013, 06:23 AM	#4
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything It sure does change everything ... Tesla is the one company that can competently design/build/market an electric car to the masses. I just need them to build something big enough to pull a small boat, .

03-01-2013, 10:44 AM	#5
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything 1. Recent developments in oil and gas exploration, drilling and production promise to make the US energy independent before the end of the decade. 2. Fracking technology promises to make oil and gas cheap and plentiful well into the future. 3. The US is not in the top-10 suppliers of lithium, the material used in today’s most advanced batteries. China is a major supplier of lithium. 4. Lithium mining operations in developing countries is creating severe environmental damage. 5. Coal, which supplies 42% of US power, is considered environmentally unfriendly. 6. Nuclear, which supplies 19% of US power, is considered too dangerous after the Japanese tsunami and new plant construction is highly unlikely. Furthermore, there is no plan for disposing/storing highly dangerous nuclear waste. 7. Hydro, which supplies 8% of US power, is considered environmentally unfriendly. 8. Wind power is beginning to demonstrate considerable, negative environmental and health impacts. 9. Considering purchase price and efficiency CNG vehicles are likely more energy and environmentally friendly that even the best EV. 10. Electric vehicles have a very limited cruising range. If the US moves toward newer diesel engine technology the efficiency differential between EVs and fossil fueled vehicle (FFV) will become even greater. It is highly unlikely that EVs will ever match fossil fuels in this performance category. 11. Numerous studies show that due to battery life limitations the resale value of EV’s will be essentially the same as that of a FFV with a blown engine. Considering that replacement battery cost is approximately 40% of the cost of many new EV’s the resale value is projected to be near “0”. So, why are we spending billions subsidizing the development of EVs.
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03-01-2013, 11:14 AM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything Originally Posted by dam1953 1. Recent developments in oil and gas exploration, drilling and production promise to make the US energy independent before the end of the decade. 2. Fracking technology promises to make oil and gas cheap and plentiful well into the future. 3. The US is not in the top-10 suppliers of lithium, the material used in today’s most advanced batteries. China is a major supplier of lithium. 4. Lithium mining operations in developing countries is creating severe environmental damage. 5. Coal, which supplies 42% of US power, is considered environmentally unfriendly. 6. Nuclear, which supplies 19% of US power, is considered too dangerous after the Japanese tsunami and new plant construction is highly unlikely. Furthermore, there is no plan for disposing/storing highly dangerous nuclear waste. 7. Hydro, which supplies 8% of US power, is considered environmentally unfriendly. 8. Wind power is beginning to demonstrate considerable, negative environmental and health impacts. 9. Considering purchase price and efficiency CNG vehicles are likely more energy and environmentally friendly that even the best EV. 10. Electric vehicles have a very limited cruising range. If the US moves toward newer diesel engine technology the efficiency differential between EVs and fossil fueled vehicle (FFV) will become even greater. It is highly unlikely that EVs will ever match fossil fuels in this performance category. 11. Numerous studies show that due to battery life limitations the resale value of EV’s will be essentially the same as that of a FFV with a blown engine. Considering that replacement battery cost is approximately 40% of the cost of many new EV’s the resale value is projected to be near “0”. So, why are we spending billions subsidizing the development of EVs. Exactly .... although a cool technology. Tesla Motors markets a car most of us cannot afford, particularly the one we would all want, the extended range variant. OTOH, Hydrogen is a better alternative. Honda has been having a model for lease for 2-3 years. But there is alas no infrastructure planned for this better solution, a greener solution I might add, for the overly large expensive batteries used in EV's are a tree-hugger's ecofriendly nightmare. Honda FCX Clarity Overview - Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle - Site SloMotion likes this.

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03-01-2013, 11:47 AM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything Where does the electricy come from to charge these cars?

03-01-2013, 02:58 PM	#8
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything Did anyone bother to watch the video?

03-01-2013, 03:45 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything Originally Posted by foreverfan Did anyone bother to watch the video? There was a video?

03-01-2013, 06:33 PM	#10
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Tesla Electric Car.... This Changes Everything Originally Posted by Danno There was a video? See the first Picture for the YouTube Video. Danno likes this.