TheOak

Burning, there are people that get 2 sentences into something and decide that either the rest is factual, or the rest is all inaccurate. The issue with that is that the first two sentences are usually the framing to get someones attention and not the full story.

Sometimes this translates into whether they "think" you believe or do not believe everything.

Example: I said I do not believe the entire conspiracy theory that the US Government killed thousands of people and had a plot to destroy the WTC... No where in there did i say i do not believe there was no cover up of how it was handled. One issue is proactive and the other is reactive. However if you stopped reading or made your decision at WTC.....

I do not for one minute believe that the people who flew the planes into the WTC were covert operatives on a suicide mission working for George W. Bush carrying out his plan to get rich.

I do believe that the fourth plane was, under directive from our Government, shot down by a US jet to prevent it from reaching its intended target.

If anyone wants to know why I do not believe our government intentionally destroyed the WTCs with a master plan?

There is absolutely zero allegiance in our Government, it is as cut throat as any group that exists. This would make it impossible to pull together a group of loyal people large enough to pull it off.

What are the odds of these two scenarios:

1. Our airport security at that time was so inept that they allowed terrorists on planes with box cutters?


2. George W. Bush garnered enough allegiance to get security agents from three different airports to allow the box cutters on a plane, found a hand full of people that were willing to commit suicide by flying planes into a building. Convinced enough people to load two skyscrapers with explosives so they would come down. Did this with any military leaders allowing a plane to fly into the pentagon and kill soldiers..

This would have had to been orchestrated by our Government and George W. Bush.... Both of which were hated so much that someone would have come forth by now and made statements along the lines of "I work airport security and on the morning of 9-11 I was replaced by those guys". " I work ed security for the WTCs and on the weeks leading up to 9-11 I was replaced by people who have never worked for my security company"... Or maybe someone slipped sleeping pills in the security guards coffee then proceeded to truck in a few thousand pounds of explosives.

Anyway, I understand where you are coming from, you want to take each alleged action and sort it out for your self what you do or don't believe. Im with you.

WhoDat!656

"If anyone wants to know why I do not believe our government intentionally destroyed the WTCs with a master plan?
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There is absolutely zero allegiance in our Government, it is as cut throat as any group that exists. This would make it impossible to pull together a group of loyal people large enough to pull it off."

The same thing goes for the Sandy Hook and the shootings at the movie theatre in Colorado.

It is inconceivable that that kind of event would not be leaked!

foreverfan

WhoDat!656

So you think that there is someone that has proof that the government is responsible for 911, the Sandy Hook & Aurora,Colorado shootings and he/she hasn't sold the story?

foreverfan

The kid is obviously innocent and his illuminati parents did the whole caper.
He was framed I tell ya...

burningmetal

I'm not really on a side at this point, as I would prefer to look at this fully, myself, before deciding. The reason I mentioned your tone is because, before you edited during my reply, your comment seemed to be accusing me of not doing my homework, and watching too much football. I found that odd considering what I had just explained in my previous post. But it seems you must have realized how it was worded, and changed it.

But again, I have an open mind, and am always willing to take another look at something if significant evidence arises. At this time though, I can't take a side.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

foreverfan

Examine both sides. One will stink to high heaven and the other will leave you with massive questions unanswered. Then throw "Political Correctness" out the window since this is only a way the powers that be try to control you. Politics has nothing to do with it. It goes much higher than that. When you get to that level, you will find out why things are the way they are and everything will make complete sense.

The reason I say take a break from football is there are other subjects discussed here that matter more. I for one thank you for hanging out in this discussion. Others either won't take the time, don't give a crap or are afraid to express their opinions.

2019 Death of a Parrot.

burningmetal

There is a difference between 9/11 and Sandy Hook. 9/11 was an event of a much, much larger scale and we do know that the tragedy itself happened, regardless of why it happened. I'm quite skeptical about the idea that the government is responsible for the terrorist attacks, themselves. I can see coverups of certain things, and particular individuals within the government trying to take advantage of a bad situation. But as I have said in this thread, I will take a look and see for myself.

With Sandy Hook, it's a small town, a small school, not near as much exposure and thus far easier to pull off a lie.

We have not just inconsistencies, but outright false information, and ZERO proof of anything that was reported to have happened. No bodies, no security camera footage, the medical examiner had very few answers, was laughing about the whole thing, and when he did have answers it was often false information.

We have supposed victims families smiling and laughing in interviews, just days after their children were said to be murdered. I'm ecstatic for the kids if in fact they ARE alive, but I am disgusted that they would be used in some sick game.

We have proof of memorial pages being made for victims days before the event even took place. And I'm only skirting over the surface of all the information we have pointing toward a hoax. Why would the government do this, you may wonder? It should be very obvious. To get all the bleeding hearts charged up to push this anti gun agenda.

I'm not one of these "all forms of government are evil" people. America was once a great country, and the way our governing system was originally designed was brilliant. This country could still be great again if more good people would stand up and fight for it. But this administration IS, without a doubt in my mind, evil. They have demonstrated zero regard for the citizens of America. I do believe that with Barack Obama, we are in the midst of a dictator. There are things in the constitution that are complicating the process for him, but he is absolutely doing everything he can to destroy the constitution, as we know it. He is stepping on our rights, and no one is doing anything about it, or if they try, they are silenced with this constant bombardment of rhetoric and lies.

Taking away our right to defend ourselves is a big step toward dictatorship. His Socialist, Marxist driven agenda's also are consistent with past disasters such as the Soviet Union. Would it be so hard for a "man" who is evil enough to disable the public, to pay a few actors to pull off a hoax? I never would have thought something like this would happen, where people would actually stage a huge tragedy. But if these are people who believe in Obama's vision of society, then why wouldn't they jump at the chance, like the drones we know they are? It's not a matter of will any of them leak information. It's whether or not they can pull off the act without anyone noticing the lack of authenticity. They failed miserably in that regard. But what is the media doing about it? Nothing. We all know the vast majority of media is soaked in liberalism, and the few who aren't are afraid of being crucified for taking a stand that would be immensely unpopular.

I don't think that everything I see is fake, by any means. I've just never been so blown away by what I've seen regarding this "shooting".

You have to admit that there are some truly delusional people out there, considering they were willing to vote for someone who broke every single promise he made in his first term, put our economy at it's lowest credit rating in history, and is promising more of the same. It's beyond political. This is evil at it's worst.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

TheOak

Absolute agreement. This leaves two possible theory.

1. Everything reported has been accurate. <---- This being impossible because there are very conflicting reports.

2. The government capitalizes on tragedy and shapes the story to serve its cause, what ever that may be.

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," Rahm Emanuel

He elaborated: "Things that we had postponed for too long, that were long-term, are now immediate and must be dealt with. This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before."

In Crisis, Opportunity for Barack Obama - WSJ.com

foreverfan