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Still Believe the Official Reports about 911? Watch the First 3 Minutes and see the people who beg to differ with you. See for yourself who asks the questions that remain unanswered. Decide for yourself.

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Why are we STILL beating this dead horse?

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Cause it ain't dead just because you think it is...

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So you believe that terrorist took down WTC 1 & 2 and the US Government took down the other Tower?

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Whodat,

I know... you're not going to waste one second on this until you get your question answered. Man I really respect your opinion on this but what does it matter what I think? Hundreds of experts say that the official story presented by our government is IMPOSSIBLE. Got that... not me but HUNDREDS OF EXPERTS say it's IMPOSSIBLE. Worse still is most people REFUSE to examine the evidence for themselves and just blindly believe what ever is spoon fed to them on TV.

Can you dispute what is being said by the experts in the above video?
That's all I want to know. That's it. No you can't.
I don't want to hear your theory about deaths. I don't what to hear more of the official story.
I just want the questions proposed by the EXPERTS answered. That's it.
When you figure that out... I'll be here.

Somebody is lying and it ain't the experts in the above video.

It get me how some people will rehash the Saints over and over and waste countless hours on something so meaningless but won't send the time to check out what others are saying about one of the most important events in American history.

In any case, 911 is just part of a much deeper conspiracy designed to create a new world order. It is the proof that it actually exists and is the smoking gun. Remember, the government would love t take everyone's guns. It's called tynary. :rolleyes:

:drink:

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The "official story" may have very well been a coverup.

However, I would think it more plausible that it was a coverup of failures on their part and not intent.

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So your saying that the terrorist loaded all 3 buildings with thermite?

All three building fell in complete free fall defying physics.
Thermite was found in the concrete power everywhere.
All the debris was immediately shipped to China to be recycled.

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Find these fun facts with in this article.
2000C (not Fahrenheit, Centigrade) Fireman's boots
18,000 lbs of Thermite
How much Thermite to burn through a small car engine


Thermite and Sulfer- Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition


Thermite does not make precision cuts in a vertical situation THAT can only be done with a Thermite torch. Notice this is a precision cut. Notice the steel banding in front of the cut is still in tact? 1500+C would have burned through that strapping if Thermite was used..
http://www.debunking911.com/cut2.jpg



Because the Thermite reaction happens at at least 1500 C... This means that you can not make precision burns in a vertical situation.


Thermite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Read the hazards portion and how to ignite it.. Thermite is VERY difficult to ignite... How do you explain the ignition on all of the vertical towers?

Oh look! Here is a guy with a torch during the cleanup operation making precision cuts so that the remaining iron columns fell in a way that they could be collected.
http://www.debunking911.com/cut.jpg


This is after a Thermite reaction. No Sulfur yellowing.
http://krimzonpyro.com.ve.carpathiah.../thermite7.jpg

And if Thermite was found who is to say it wasn't in the luggage of the terrorists? We already know it takes cr4p loads of Thermite to bring down buildings of that size, that amount would leave a whole lot of Thermite residue all over NYC with the winds blowing.
Explosive Residues: Energetic Materials and the World Trade Center Destruction

However what was found only burns at 430C... Not the 1500+C.
Bentham Science Publishers Ltd. Home Page

Now do I believe that Flight 93 was shot down? You bet. it was shot down to prevent it from reaching its intended target. No rockets in the fuselage, no bullets holes in the tail. Engines were taken out so it would come down.

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Using facts is not fair Oak!

I do believe is is highly likely Flight 93 was shot down to prevent it from reaching its target as you say.

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You are correct.... but if you watched the video, the Experts say that the only thing that could have cause the towers to free fall is a newer high reactive super thermite. Only a very few including the US Military has this.

Typical Americans... Spewing their TV media programmed facts when they don't know what they are talking about. Watch the film. You will find it very interesting. It is not filled with idiots.

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Another good bit of information about 9-11 is Zeitgeist: The Movie. I have always doubted the information given by the media about the events of that day, and after doing some of my own research, I absolutely think our own government played a HUGE hand in this.

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The biggest role the government had in 911 was not doing a better job with the intelligence data they had.

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Keep telling yourself that.

The "Experts" do not all agree. Is my point. So it is up to us to

"Some" experts have that opinion.

"Experts" are not always correct in their hypothesis. If they were there would be no need for medical malpractice insurance.

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I'd love to believe the "Official" government story... but since the story is proven to be "100% IMPOSSIBLE" by the "EXPERTS"... it makes you wonder what else are they not telling you. :confused:

Official doesn't mean "correct report"
it just means official story lol. See NFL

As I stated, "Some Experts" say it's implausible.

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At one time you could actually take a history class at Southeastern devoted to the Kennedy Assassination.

How long before there are classes being taught on this?

"Schooling" is going on now lol

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Speaking of the Kennedy assassination and conspiracy theories, I just watched a really interesting documentary not long ago called "Dark Legacy". It was a theory that linked George H.W. Bush to the Kennedy assassination. It was very well done, and it actually made a lot more sense than any other theory I've heard yet. This I do know...Lee Harvey Oswald was a HUGE scapegoat in that mess.

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And there are people that believe the moon landings were staged in Hollywood!

Opinions are like a$$holes and elbows; everyone has one or two and they usually stink!

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The only people that say this statement are usually people that think they are right about absolutely everything and the opinions of others don't matter. Also, the people that say this are so closed-minded that they refuse to see that others may have a valid argument. Newsflash: Just because people do not share the same opinion with you, doesn't mean that their opinions stink because you say they do.

If you believe every single thing that the mainstream media tells you and think that our fearless leaders actually give a damn about you, me, or anyone else and wouldn't pull a stunt like this to further their own agenda, then you are completely naive.

When people try to argue their opposing the ideas of how events took place such as the Kennedy assassination, 9-11, Sandy Hook, Pearl Harbor, etc., they are usually asked "Where is your proof?" Those that oppose are usually considered crazy people with radical ideas and aren't taken seriously. Well, a counter-question can be asked to the person that believes everything they have read from a history book or something they have seen on the national news such as events I stated above plus things like the sinking of the Lusitania, the Lincoln and MLK assassinations, the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan, the Aurora, Colorado theater shooting and even Sandy Hook: "What makes you so sure you are getting the whole story or even the real story?" If you answer with "Oh, I saw it on the news (CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc.)", then people that already doubt those sources consider the person that believes them a crazy person with radical ideas and you're not taken seriously. It's really just a Catch-22.

The simple fact is that the mainstream media is full of lies and deceit just like our government. As a history major, there is one thing I've learned. In elementary school we were taught about certain events in history from our books. It was a small scale teaching, because of our age. In high school, when learning about history, you learn that some events didn't quite take place the way we were taught in elementary school and there is more detail given because our brains are a little more advanced. When you take history classes in college, you can throw every single thing you learned about history in elementary and high school out the window, because they are happened nothing like you were taught when you were younger. This alone should make even the average student question the legitimacy of historical events that have taken place over time. I question every single thing that happens in this country and this world, because I do not believe every single thing that I hear on the news. I honestly don't even watch mainstream media because of the constant fear they attempt to pump into people's brains so there can be a national outcry of "believers" that will increase the chances of making their agenda successful. Some easy examples of that are the prohibition of marijuana, the NDAA, the TSA, the current gun control talks, and anything to do with "Homeland Security". If you think that for a split second that our government doesn't want to have complete control over the lives of single person in this country, then you are sadly mistaken. Big Brother is watching you, and I am giving him the finger.

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Some deceptions are done for a reason and obviously false. This allows the powers that be to hide things in plane site by having there "State Run Media" telling the official story (even though it doesn't make sense) and allows them to "label" anybody that presents a reasonable argument as a "Conspiracy Theorist".

Just take Obama's birth certificate. :rolleyes:

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Americans who refuse to ask questions of their government are called "Sheeple".

http://ct.weirdnutdaily.com/ol/wn/sw...ctures/209.jpg

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Hey Do_It_Up... some people love to be programmed by TV and are to lazy to do any real research on others opinions. You love history... did you see this yet? This is an incredible prespective on American History not taught in our schools.

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I haven't seen it yet, but thank you for posting this. I will definitely be watching it. I love documentaries that challenge everything we've been told. I've heard some good things about Oliver Stone's Secret History of America. I haven't had the chance to watch any of those, either.

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Why should I believe the 'experts' in the video? Just because they say the government is wrong/lying?

The ONLY reason the government wants control over the populace is so they will have a reason for being.

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/artic...entDeities.htm

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Why should you believe the media and take everything they say at face value?

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You are assuming facts not inevidence.

Show me where I posted that I believe the media and take everything they say?

Forever fan says that we should not believe the media, but expects us to blindly accepts as gospel anything a panel of 'experts' say, simply because they say they government is lying.

"Experts' get things wrong all the time; just because they have PHD, MBA, etc, in front of their name doesn't mean that they can't be wrong wither.

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WhoDat... if you think the media tells the truth... you haven't been paying attention and need to take a break from football. In any case, the media was bought up by the powers that are much higher than the government. These are the people who never change and have the real power. Our government leaders and media have become puppets for these people. These people run the entire world banking industry and create money backed by nothing and can add zeros to anyone's bank account to "Buy Them". This is all part of the New World Order. The last piece they have to do it to destroy the dollar and take away your guns.

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It's not up to us to make you believe it. That is something you are going to have to learn on your own by doing simple research. It's not just this video of "experts" that is calling BS on our government. There are SEVERAL videos of evidence out there with eye-witness accounts and other information from the WTC and the Pentagon on 9-11. Take some time and watch them for yourself before you just blow off the entire idea that there was a conspiracy and that the government and media reports are 100% accurate. FF and I have done a lot of our own research. That is why we believe the way we do. Things just DO NOT add up. One thing I've noticed about media and government reports is that they are horrible at keeping their stories straight and tying up loose ends for their cover-ups. The 9-11 Commission was a complete joke. We don't necessarily expect you to believe us, either, but I implore you to do some of your own research into this. You will be amazed at the bones you will dig up.

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I watched this almost immediately after I saw you had posted this, ff. It just confirms my idea that the British monarchy and government has been behind a lot of the world's troubles. They are huge players in every war, US Presidency, and just outright bullying of the smaller nations in the world to ensure their dominance. Once we became their allies, that pretty much screwed the United States. "God Save the Queen", my ass.

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I have seen some of these videos.

One of them said that the American Airlines plane the government said hit the Pentagon couldn't have caused that much damage, even though there is video if it striking the Pentagon and there was aircraft wreckage on the Pentagon grounds.

or the one that said Flt 93 couldn't have crashed where the government said it did because a person saw the plane flying over a lake at a specific time. The conspiracy theorists said that the plane couldn't have gotten from the lake to the crash site in that time. Of course they failed to mention that this 'conclusion' was based on the time it took a car to drive the distance and not a jet flying 300+ mph.

or the 'experts' that said that the Towers couldn't have collasped without detonation because there wasnt enough time for the steel beams in the towers to melt from the heat of the fires started from the planes crashing into them. Even though, A: the government didnt say the beams melted, and B: it has been proven that the heat from a fire similar to the WTC can produce enough heat to weaken steel beams to the point that they fail.

Here is a novel concept for you and D it Up to consider: Sometimes 2 + 2 does equal 4 and sometimes things do happen they way they appear! But I implore you to do some of your own research into this. You will be amazed at the bones you dig up.

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So you don't agree with a few points and immediately throw our all the rest? You have to play the game for 4 quarters to get the full story.

One trick the powers that be use is to present something totally false and easily proved false and call it a conspiracy theory. Then foolish people see that something is obviously fake and think that the whole thing must be one giant conspiracy theory.

:rolleyes:

Can anybody tell me what was in the chemical trails over the city of New Orleans for the past few days? Disturbing. :confused:

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Incredible spin on history huh? You can see how the British banking system forced the USA hand and the result was the Federal Reserve Bank....

Did you know that the Federal Reserve Bank isn't "Federal" (they are a private bank), they certainty have no Reserves. They print the money backed by NOTHING except a promise to pay the interest by the US Tax Payer. It's a GIANT ponzi scheme. :mad:

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My wife believes they are contrails from the government spraying the flu virus trying to kill people and reduce the population.

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Isn't that exactly what you are doing?

You don't believe part or all of what the government said about 911 so you are discrediting everything they say!

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Yes, I was aware of that. I am registered Libertarian and one of our major stances is to be rid of the Fed. I don't know if you have seen any of the Zeitgeist movies, but they are pretty incredible in their own right.

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LOL... Who knows?

Research indicates that the trails are part of a geoengineering program that may already be in its initial implementation phase.

Scientists at the Carnegie Institution are using taxpayer money to lay the groundwork for injecting the atmosphere with materials they believe will artificially cool the planet, in a bid to stave off what we are told is modern civilization’s greatest threat to date, anthropogenic global warming.

Even if you buy into the as yet unproven theory that human produced carbon emissions are voluminous enough to significantly alter the planet’s climate, you should still be extremely wary. Playing God with the atmosphere may have severe consequences, particularly given that the compounds these scientists are testing are known to cause debilitating health problems and could lead to massive droughts and famines.

Based around the madcap method of “injecting aerosols of sulfate into the stratosphere” to produce “a global sunshade,” researchers at the Carnegie Institution’s Department of Global Ecology have been running advanced trials on how to distribute artificially added sulfates to the atmosphere in the name of cooling the planet.

I've watched a few of the Zeitgeist stuff. Politically I'm a political atheists since there is enough BS spewed daily by both parties. Our 2 party system is 2 sides of the same evil coin which is all about creating debt and putting the Taxpayer on the hook for the interest. It is destine to fail. This is why TPTB want to take our guns. No conspiracy... just reality.

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Not exactly... I just ask people to consider that the story that the "Powers That Be" has presented is complete BS as presented by the people who's expert opinion would easily land you in jail if the information was presented against you. Too bad I don't own the media to spew the official BS story of the day.