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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Dude balled tonight for the Eagles. 15 tackles and 2 sacks. Tell me again why we couldn’t find a way to get this dude more involved? I feel like it’s Trey Hendrickson all over again. Lol...

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Old 09-06-2024, 11:01 PM   #1
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Zach Baun

Dude balled tonight for the Eagles. 15 tackles and 2 sacks.

Tell me again why we couldn’t find a way to get this dude more involved? I feel like it’s Trey Hendrickson all over again. Lol
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Old 09-06-2024, 11:52 PM   #2
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Fair points
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Old 09-07-2024, 08:12 AM   #3
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I liked Baun when he was here.

To say Dennis is this defensive “guru”, he sure didn’t get the most out of Zach.

Criminally under utilized in NOLA.
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Old 09-07-2024, 09:22 AM   #4
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Sometimes I feel like our organization has this hubris about drafting and utilizing players creatively out of position so we can brag about the advantages of flexibility and our vision. If a coach has too much ego, making a player switch positions and roles to something that never suited them is a way for that coach to take credit, to suddenly become the one who reinvented that player not just drafted them. We drafted Peat when we already had an entrenched left tackle and made him play most of his career out of position. Same for Ruiz when we already had a Center. On defense we seem to be ruining a promising edge corner in Alontae Taylor by converting him to the slot. I think Baun was a case on defense of trying to reenvision a player and refusing to let them do what they do best. Ultimately the best coaches find players who skills fit their scheme or change their scheme to be utilize their players talents, mediocre coaches just draft the best players and hope it works out, and the worst coaches actively put players out of position because doing what makes sense and everyone else says would be proving another person right.
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Old 09-07-2024, 10:28 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint View Post
Sometimes I feel like our organization has this hubris about drafting and utilizing players creatively out of position so we can brag about the advantages of flexibility and our vision. If a coach has too much ego, making a player switch positions and roles to something that never suited them is a way for that coach to take credit, to suddenly become the one who reinvented that player not just drafted them. We drafted Peat when we already had an entrenched left tackle and made him play most of his career out of position. Same for Ruiz when we already had a Center. On defense we seem to be ruining a promising edge corner in Alontae Taylor by converting him to the slot. I think Baun was a case on defense of trying to reenvision a player and refusing to let them do what they do best. Ultimately the best coaches find players who skills fit their scheme or change their scheme to be utilize their players talents, mediocre coaches just draft the best players and hope it works out, and the worst coaches actively put players out of position because doing what makes sense and everyone else says would be proving another person right.
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Old 09-07-2024, 12:09 PM   #6
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Dennis Allen is a CB guru and that's about all he's proven.
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Old 09-07-2024, 01:38 PM   #7
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Take Nick Saldiveri as another example ….

Played extensively @ RT most of his collegiate career.

Not sure why the Saints are so adamant about plugging him in at guard.
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Old 09-08-2024, 05:35 AM   #8
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The Eagles used Zach as their Mike. Could it be that he was being played out of position when he was in NOLA because we had Demario?
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Originally Posted by leilung View Post
The Eagles used Zach as their Mike. Could it be that he was being played out of position when he was in NOLA because we had Demario?
So we could not keep Demario's replacement on the team? Isn't Demario like 75 years old?
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Old 12-05-2024, 12:13 PM   #10
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So we could not keep Demario's replacement on the team? Isn't Demario like 75 years old?
35. Missed one game in his entire career and still recognized as one of the top five LB's in the entire league. Team captain and inspirational leader of the team. Baun likely knew he wouldn't have a chance to replace Davis anytime soon.
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