Falcons coordinator calls Matt Ryan a Top 10 quarterback

Tobias-Reiper · 08-01-2012, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

Only elite qb's throw for 40+ TDs a season, though.

Cut the kid some slack.... He hasn't even hit his prime yet... after all, Peyton Manning started off 0-3 in the playoffs too, all of them, blowout losses. They both had a perfect score on the wonderlic coming in from college. Their great knowledge and understanding of the game at such young ages make them so much alike. That's why we run the no huddle offense, the same offense Peyton Manning ran as a young qb. Our old OC let Matt Ryan call some plays on certain drives, and I think Matt Ryan did a better job of calling plays than our old OC.

.. and there you go with the Prisco comparison. Unfortunately, that comparison is only valid in that Manning started 0-3 in the playoffs, and that's where it ends.

And the Colts did not lose all games in blowouts.
1999 16-19 against the Titans
2000 23-17 against the Dolphins in OT

... but you just keep on listening to Prisco.

Tobias-Reiper · 08-01-2012, 02:25 PM

Frankly, I think their OC should've just kept his mouth shut, and not mention any ranking. What's the point? You can't put him up there with the money QB's (and by money I don't mean salary) so why even bother? Why even mention "top 10"? Out of 32 starting QBs? That's not even a compliment. Top 5? Ok, that would be a compliment, but I am sure, had the OC made that comment, the laughter heard around the league would've been much louder... pretty sure Ryan himself would've LOL'd.

atltillidie · 08-01-2012, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Frankly, I think their OC should've just kept his mouth shut, and not mention any ranking. What's the point? You can't put him up there with the money QB's (and by money I don't mean salary) so why even bother? Why even mention "top 10"? Out of 32 starting QBs? That's not even a compliment. Top 5? Ok, that would be a compliment, but I am sure, had the OC made that comment, the laughter heard around the league would've been much louder... pretty sure Ryan himself would've LOL'd.

Matt Ryan finished 5th in ESPN's total QBR rating last year.

|Mitch| · 08-01-2012, 03:21 PM

ESPN?

Tobias-Reiper · 08-01-2012, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

Matt Ryan finished 5th in ESPN's total QBR rating last year.

Well, good for you! You dug up a stat!
Then again, there is the "other" stat, the passer rating stat, on the same ESPN website, that has no Matt Ryan anywhere between 1 and 5.

2011 NFL Statistics - National Football League - ESPN
NFL Total Quarterback Rating - National Football League - ESPN

I guess you can pick and choose which stat you want to use, which stat is more valid than the other, which stat makes you feel better, etc etc etc.

The one thing I know is that, in crunch time, neither Brees, nor Brady, nor the Mannings, etc. look at best overwhelmed, at worst scared, like Matty Melt does. And there's no stat for that.

Matt Ryan isn't even the centerpiece of his own offense, for Pete's sake.

Matt Ryan is a solid QB, who has had success in the regular season. Be glad you have one of those... don't believe what Prisco and ESPN tell you.

atltillidie · 08-01-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Well, good for you! You dug up a stat!
Then again, there is the "other" stat, the passer rating stat, on the same ESPN website, that has no Matt Ryan anywhere between 1 and 5.

2011 NFL Statistics - National Football League - ESPN
NFL Total Quarterback Rating - National Football League - ESPN

I guess you can pick and choose which stat you want to use, which stat is more valid than the other, which stat makes you feel better, etc etc etc.

The one thing I know is that, in crunch time, neither Brees, nor Brady, nor the Mannings, etc. look at best overwhelmed, at worst scared, like Matty Melt does. And there's no stat for that.

Matt Ryan isn't even the centerpiece of his own offense, for Pete's sake.

Matt Ryan is a solid QB, who has had success in the regular season. Be glad you have one of those... don't believe what Prisco and ESPN tell you.

What makes you think he isn't the centerpiece of our offense? If he isn't who is?

|Mitch| · 08-01-2012, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by atltillidie

If he isn't who is?

Your team mainly the offensive line is built to run behind. Your centerpiece is Michael Turner, you've had success when Turner gets his 100 yards. That's why you went 13-3, 2 years ago... You draft Julio Jones and try to turn into a passing team and look what happened

CharityMike · 08-01-2012, 03:43 PM

I don't care how good his stats are. I don't care if he was the best QB in the league(lmao)..you are on a Saints forum and you are not going to get any love no matter what..you are the ENEMY!! Sry bro..just the way it is..

sharke · 08-01-2012, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

..you are on a Saints forum and you are not going to get any love no matter what..you are the ENEMY!! Sry bro..just the way it is..

THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!

atltillidie · 08-01-2012, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I don't care how good his stats are. I don't care if he was the best QB in the league(lmao)..you are on a Saints forum and you are not going to get any love no matter what..you are the ENEMY!! Sry bro..just the way it is..

I understood that from the beginning... but you can't deny Matt Ryan's a top 10 qb. :/

08-01-2012, 02:38 PM	#1
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by atltillidie Only elite qb's throw for 40+ TDs a season, though. Cut the kid some slack.... He hasn't even hit his prime yet... after all, Peyton Manning started off 0-3 in the playoffs too, all of them, blowout losses. They both had a perfect score on the wonderlic coming in from college. Their great knowledge and understanding of the game at such young ages make them so much alike. That's why we run the no huddle offense, the same offense Peyton Manning ran as a young qb. Our old OC let Matt Ryan call some plays on certain drives, and I think Matt Ryan did a better job of calling plays than our old OC. .. and there you go with the Prisco comparison. Unfortunately, that comparison is only valid in that Manning started 0-3 in the playoffs, and that's where it ends. And the Colts did not lose all games in blowouts. 1999 16-19 against the Titans 2000 23-17 against the Dolphins in OT ... but you just keep on listening to Prisco.

08-01-2012, 02:25 PM	#2
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Frankly, I think their OC should've just kept his mouth shut, and not mention any ranking. What's the point? You can't put him up there with the money QB's (and by money I don't mean salary) so why even bother? Why even mention "top 10"? Out of 32 starting QBs? That's not even a compliment. Top 5? Ok, that would be a compliment, but I am sure, had the OC made that comment, the laughter heard around the league would've been much louder... pretty sure Ryan himself would've LOL'd. Halo and \|Mitch\| like this.

08-01-2012, 03:20 PM	#3
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Frankly, I think their OC should've just kept his mouth shut, and not mention any ranking. What's the point? You can't put him up there with the money QB's (and by money I don't mean salary) so why even bother? Why even mention "top 10"? Out of 32 starting QBs? That's not even a compliment. Top 5? Ok, that would be a compliment, but I am sure, had the OC made that comment, the laughter heard around the league would've been much louder... pretty sure Ryan himself would've LOL'd. Matt Ryan finished 5th in ESPN's total QBR rating last year.

08-01-2012, 03:21 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	ESPN? saintfan likes this.

08-01-2012, 07:54 PM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Originally Posted by atltillidie Matt Ryan finished 5th in ESPN's total QBR rating last year. Well, good for you! You dug up a stat! Then again, there is the "other" stat, the passer rating stat, on the same ESPN website, that has no Matt Ryan anywhere between 1 and 5. 2011 NFL Statistics - National Football League - ESPN NFL Total Quarterback Rating - National Football League - ESPN I guess you can pick and choose which stat you want to use, which stat is more valid than the other, which stat makes you feel better, etc etc etc. The one thing I know is that, in crunch time, neither Brees, nor Brady, nor the Mannings, etc. look at best overwhelmed, at worst scared, like Matty Melt does. And there's no stat for that. Matt Ryan isn't even the centerpiece of his own offense, for Pete's sake. Matt Ryan is a solid QB, who has had success in the regular season. Be glad you have one of those... don't believe what Prisco and ESPN tell you.
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08-01-2012, 09:13 PM	#6
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Well, good for you! You dug up a stat! Then again, there is the "other" stat, the passer rating stat, on the same ESPN website, that has no Matt Ryan anywhere between 1 and 5. 2011 NFL Statistics - National Football League - ESPN NFL Total Quarterback Rating - National Football League - ESPN I guess you can pick and choose which stat you want to use, which stat is more valid than the other, which stat makes you feel better, etc etc etc. The one thing I know is that, in crunch time, neither Brees, nor Brady, nor the Mannings, etc. look at best overwhelmed, at worst scared, like Matty Melt does. And there's no stat for that. Matt Ryan isn't even the centerpiece of his own offense, for Pete's sake. Matt Ryan is a solid QB, who has had success in the regular season. Be glad you have one of those... don't believe what Prisco and ESPN tell you. What makes you think he isn't the centerpiece of our offense? If he isn't who is?

08-01-2012, 09:16 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by atltillidie If he isn't who is? Your team mainly the offensive line is built to run behind. Your centerpiece is Michael Turner, you've had success when Turner gets his 100 yards. That's why you went 13-3, 2 years ago... You draft Julio Jones and try to turn into a passing team and look what happened

08-01-2012, 03:43 PM	#8
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	I don't care how good his stats are. I don't care if he was the best QB in the league(lmao)..you are on a Saints forum and you are not going to get any love no matter what..you are the ENEMY!! Sry bro..just the way it is.. sharke likes this.

08-01-2012, 04:20 PM	#9
sharke evil decepticon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 583	Originally Posted by CharityMike ..you are on a Saints forum and you are not going to get any love no matter what..you are the ENEMY!! Sry bro..just the way it is.. THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!

08-01-2012, 04:41 PM	#10
atltillidie 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 432	Originally Posted by CharityMike I don't care how good his stats are. I don't care if he was the best QB in the league(lmao)..you are on a Saints forum and you are not going to get any love no matter what..you are the ENEMY!! Sry bro..just the way it is.. I understood that from the beginning... but you can't deny Matt Ryan's a top 10 qb. :/

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