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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by atltillidie Well, of course, every QB has their negatives. (BTW, he finished 11th in completion percentage). I thought that was the point of this conversation, comparing those positives and negatives and ranking the quarterbacks based on the ...

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Old 08-01-2012, 10:43 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by atltillidie View Post
Well, of course, every QB has their negatives. (BTW, he finished 11th in completion percentage).
I thought that was the point of this conversation, comparing those positives and negatives and ranking the quarterbacks based on the results. If we start him off at 8th, based solely on passer rating and then you;

factor in he does not step up in pressure situations, as shown by his numbers in the 4th quarter in close games, his numbers in the final two minutes of halves and fair to poor performances in the playoffs.

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Add to that his weak arm and horrible completion percentages in passing over 20 yards. (you have to have seen how he lofts the ball when he throws deep)

it becomes very hard to give him the nod over other quarterbacks that have very strong attributes that don't get measured in the passer rating, like Roethlisberger's ability to extend a play and difficulty to bring down or Vick's ability to improvise and make big plays on the ground.

(And he finished 12th in completion percentage. Check the ESPN page
2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
Then NFL ranking is wrong. Alex Smith finished ahead of him by 4 tenths of a percentage point. The NFL doesn't have a good reputation for getting their facts straight.)

You might use other ways to determine what's important in a quarterback or you may just like view him threw red and black glasses, but..

Can you see how it's easy to say he's NOT in the top ten?
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint View Post
I thought that was the point of this conversation, comparing those positives and negatives and ranking the quarterbacks based on the results. If we start him off at 8th, based solely on passer rating and then you;

factor in he does not step up in pressure situations, as shown by his numbers in the 4th quarter in close games, his numbers in the final two minutes of halves and fair to poor performances in the playoffs.

and

Add to that his weak arm and horrible completion percentages in passing over 20 yards. (you have to have seen how he lofts the ball when he throws deep)

it becomes very hard to give him the nod over other quarterbacks that have very strong attributes that don't get measured in the passer rating, like Roethlisberger's ability to extend a play and difficulty to bring down or Vick's ability to improvise and make big plays on the ground.

(And he finished 12th in completion percentage. Check the ESPN page
2011 NFL Player Passing Stats - National Football League - ESPN
Then NFL ranking is wrong. Alex Smith finished ahead of him by 4 tenths of a percentage point. The NFL doesn't have a good reputation for getting their facts straight.)

You might use other ways to determine what's important in a quarterback or you may just like view him threw red and black glasses, but..

Can you see how it's easy to say he's NOT in the top ten?
Yes. I could see that all along, but I still believe that he is top 10. Even if the Falcons spend ten years with him and we still can't get a playoff victory, I'm still going support him every single year a keep believing that this kid can take us places. I'm going to have faith in this guy no matter how many things you say he sucks at.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:53 PM   #3
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Yes. I could see that all along, but I still believe that he is top 10. Even if the Falcons spend ten years with him and we still can't get a playoff victory, I'm still going support him every single year a keep believing that this kid can take us places. I'm going to have faith in this guy no matter how many things you say he sucks at.
Can't blame ya for that. That's what fans do. I stuck up for Aaron Brooks.
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Can't blame ya for that. That's what fans do. I stuck up for Aaron Brooks.
You stuck up for this Guy??

I did too..shhhhh
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